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1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

OrcinusOrca

New Member
Hello all! Have been following this forum since 2017, but today took the 1st steps. I am interested in crypto and intel, so I only to the OAR.

Background: I have degrees in Electrical (BS 3.3 GPA) and Computer (MS 3.68 GPA) Engineering. I am currently a Navy civilian but looking to do more. Am interested in cyber security. I am 24 but will be 25 next month. No prior service, would be first in my family.

Score: 57

As someone who HATES standardized exams (I spent 3 years building up the courage to take this exam), here's what I did:
Practice, I knew the material, but was not good at mental math (thanks higher education!) I went through the gouge on here from the very first page, just pulling links. Unfortunately, the old ones are broken but many others were nice enough to provided newer links. I studied an hour a day for 6 weeks (did not study the week of Christmas). The week before I did one practice test a day. I bought the Barron's book, the Master the Officer Candidates book, the Arco GRE book, and the Peterson's. I also purchased those little yellow GRE math and reading books.

The test was down a bunch too. We had to stop and close it at one point. Don't panic! It saves your progress! If anything, the lag let me mentally breath before the next question!

Math: One matrix problem (just know how to add 'em), D=RT (a bunch!), simplifying exponents like 16^(-3/4), basic volume geometry, the cost of business with two companies. Struggling to remember the rest. No logs, or geometry.

Reading: For me, the hardest section as I am not a reader. I definitely struggled here as the questions and answers got very easy, meaning it brought down my score. : ( I just had my fingers on the screen so I could compare words/phrases from the question to the answers to find any contradictions. People said it's all military but no, I got some science ones and one about mountains in there too. Do not hesitate to speak out loud. I was in a room alone so I read the passages aloud and even talked to myself during the other two sections.

Mechanical: I believe I did do well here, as I got the nuclear question (hint it talks about rods and reactors). My background is in EE, so the electrical questions were a breeze. As an EE, I can only suggest memorizing V=IR (and units -- I was asked this!) and understanding resistors, as from my experience they don't ask about capacitors or inductors. I memorized mechanical advantage and levers, but were not on the test. A lot to do with pendulums though and kinetic energy. Understand that a force in the x direction will not necessarily affect a force in the y direction (like a boat going perpendicular while being dragged downstream or a bullet being shot vs dropping a bullet) I was also literally asked to provide the equations for power and work as two separate questions.

Overall, was hoping to break 60 but the recruiter says I'm competitive. The board is in April so now just trying to get all the paperwork together. Lemme know what you think!
 
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srichar1

Member
Hello
I just came out of the ASTB test today. My scores were 55 7/8/7.

Background: Mechanical engineering major, 3rd year
30 hours ish of private pilot lessons.

My first two attempts I scored around 55 5/5/6 ish both times. I was only using the barren's book I purchased on amazon.
This third try I spent hours sifting through this discussion looking for all the resources I could find. After spending hours and hours of skimming, I studied and skimmed all of the material I had collected.
I have inserted links below to the majority of the material I have found. They are links to google drives which have been created by other users.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qHP7UgdlcG_8MWka5XnTuNGl4Q-hqL3b
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1zCfQ7iTsFBRKJzH8shh2gs7SK15cv2sM
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1yF6a44EmkonbPCXAlR-W2w-GGjcSu_uV
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1s0TFbrfix-01JR_nBtxMF2pfE7mo3Apm

A few suggestions for those prepping to take it, I highly encourage you all to get a good night sleep before the test. This made the biggest difference in my ability to focus hard on the test during the time I was doing it. The first two attempts were while my semester was still going and had a ton of other things going on at the same time (especially since I am majoring in mechanical engineering) so I really didn't have much time to sit down and purely focus on the test when studying for it.
In addition to that, I highly suggest using the compass trick for the uav portion, trust me. And when you are allowed to practice the uav during the test, take advantage of that. I spent around 20 minutes going over the practice before entering the actual test in the apex software.
Finally, for me, it took me two tests to figure out by reading this discussion which number corresponds with the trigger and clutch button during the listening portion. When I did the test all 3 times, it skipped right past the instruction that showed which is which and straight into the test. If it wasn't for this discussion, I still wouldn't know which is which. For those who may encounter this issue, even numbers are trigger, odd are clutch. That is all I will say.

Cheers

Semper Fi

Thanks for the quick links! I have my exam Jan 25th. Do you use a Saitek Joystick? And when you say trigger and clutch what do you mean exactly?
 

Rahul Gupta

Active Member
A bit random but as I was studying for my second attempt at the ASTB-E, I just remembered that I saw a doppler effect question in the MCT secn. Please read this small article about the topic https://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae26.cfm

The question was something like: The ambulance is approaching the observer, is the pitch increasing or decreasing? Obviously, it is increasing since it's approaching you it gets louder (think of when you were approached by a cop car, fire truck or ambi...it got louder). The science is as the truck approaches you the observer, the wavelength b/t the sound-wave and you decreases and, thus, the pitch increases (noise is louder)!

Again, super random but it's my 0.02 in case any of you get this question on the test (did not see anything in the guides about doppler effect and relied on knowledge from my physics class to answer it).
 

OrcinusOrca

New Member
A bit random but as I was studying for my second attempt at the ASTB-E, I just remembered that I saw a doppler effect question in the MCT secn. Please read this small article about the topic https://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae26.cfm

The question was something like: The ambulance is approaching the observer, is the pitch increasing or decreasing? Obviously, it is increasing since it's approaching you it gets louder (think of when you were approached by a cop car, fire truck or ambi...it got louder). The science is as the truck approaches you the observer, the wavelength b/t the sound-wave and you decreases and, thus, the pitch increases (noise is louder)!

Again, super random but it's my 0.02 in case any of you get this question on the test (did not see anything in the guides about doppler effect and relied on knowledge from my physics class to answer it).

I got that question. I assumed based on experience that it was louder as it comes toward you.
 

Meyerkord

Well-Known Member
pilot
The science is as the truck approaches you the observer, the wavelength b/t the sound-wave and you decreases and, thus, the pitch increases (noise is louder)!
I got that question. I assumed based on experience that it was louder as it comes toward you.
Even though you both ended up with the right answer, the Doppler effect actually isn't referring to the volume of the noise, it's referring to the pitch. Pitch is not the same as volume. Here's a video on Doppler effect that does a good job explaining it:
 

Rahul Gupta

Active Member
Even though you both ended up with the right answer, the Doppler effect actually isn't referring to the volume of the noise, it's referring to the pitch. Pitch is not the same as volume. Here's a video on Doppler effect that does a good job explaining it:
Aaahhh...I see so the frequency of the sound-waves increases as it approaches the observer, thus, the reason for the louder noise and inc. in pitch. Also, the wavelength is smaller as the sound wave approaches you versus when it travels away from you. Thank you, that clears it up.
 

bridgette922

New Member
Hi first time poster,

I took the OAR today and got a 49. Feeling pretty discouraged/disappointed in the score because I knew I would need 50 to do intelligence and am now basically kicking myself. I’m thinking I’ll just study more and take the test again. I studied a lot of the google drive provided here. Trying to decide if I should just go SWO and not restest again. Or maybe do a waiver for the score. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

Also B.S. is in Cyber Security, GPA 3.7
Navy reserve 7 years- rate AME
 

srichar1

Member
Just took that ASTB for the first time on Friday (1/25) I studied for about a week prior and reviewed some basic concepts. I'm 22 years old and in my last semester of college studying business with a 3.10 GPA. I'm applying for Naval Aviator (pilot) not NFO. I scored a 44 5/8/7. My recruiter said its competitive enough to not need to retest. After looking through this forum I see many applicants scoring 55+ and 8/8/8 across the board. Do you guys think I should retest or keep the scores and see what the board says?
 

Bruce_Almighty

Well-Known Member
Just took that ASTB for the first time on Friday (1/25) I studied for about a week prior and reviewed some basic concepts. I'm 22 years old and in my last semester of college studying business with a 3.10 GPA. I'm applying for Naval Aviator (pilot) not NFO. I scored a 44 5/8/7. My recruiter said its competitive enough to not need to retest. After looking through this forum I see many applicants scoring 55+ and 8/8/8 across the board. Do you guys think I should retest or keep the scores and see what the board says?

I’m applying with a 45 6/8/6. I have precious flying experience and 3.5 gpa so it might be different with me. With your age, time is not critical. I would apply to get your first look at it. It gets your first look and if you don’t get picked up. Retest if you feel like you can do better. If that was your first score, try with it. That’s my opinion.
 

srichar1

Member
I’m applying with a 45 6/8/6. I have precious flying experience and 3.5 gpa so it might be different with me. With your age, time is not critical. I would apply to get your first look at it. It gets your first look and if you don’t get picked up. Retest if you feel like you can do better. If that was your first score, try with it. That’s my opinion.
Thank you for the advice!
 

kdoucet

New Member
Hello all, for those who need a good place to study math concepts and get good explanations in preparation for the astb-e. I have used this website a lot during school especially while taking Calculus 1-3. There are good sections covering Algebra and Trig.
Paul's Online Math Notes, he is a math Professor at Lamar University in Beaumont Texas

tutorial.math.lamar.edu
 
OVERVIEW:
Scoring: https://www.usnavy.vt.edu/documents/astboverview.pdf

This is a collection of all the info and advice I used to help me score a 46 5/7/6 on the ASTB. I’ve been a vulture here for the last 2 years and I can’t say enough how much this thread has helped prepare me. Many of these were pulled straight from other posts so I echoed them here. Approach this test with confidence and resolve. Before studying for and taking the test, be honest with yourself and your own academic shortcomings. Sharpen your strong areas and strengthen your weak areas. Be intentional with your time! For me, I broke down my study time into biggest need to least need: Math, Mech, UAV, ANIT, READ, Dichotic Listening, (Stick/Throttle, NAFTI ← can’t really study for.)

MATH:
  • logarithms (adding, subtracting, change of base formula)
  • matrices (adding, subtracting, multiplying, dividing)
  • equations with fractional exponents and radicals (including multiplication with different indexes and radicals in the denominator)
  • perfect numbers (6, 28, 496, 8128)
  • system of equations
  • work problems: https://www.purplemath.com/modules/workprob.htm
  • Lots of multi-step word problems inc.: Fractions, percents, ratios, etc..
Before the exam even started, you have an untimed section where you fill in all your personal info, I took that time to make an exponent and squares chart on my scratch paper so I could have those readily at hand. Time yourself and try to solve each question in 2-2.5 min. If you’re stumped, use the answer choices to plug back into the problem.
YouTube Help:
The Organic Chemistry Tutor: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEWpbFLzoYGPfuWUMFPSaoA
Fort Bend Tutoring: https://www.youtube.com/user/FortBendTutoring

READING:
You’re gonna wanna build stamina for this one, especially for those of you who aren’t ‘readers’. Choose the statement that can ONLY be deduced from the paragraph, nothing more. Don't overthink it. READ THIS ALOUD 2-3x. Other choices may be true, but only one can be directly taken from the paragraph. Other than that, pretty straightforward, and I averaged about 2.5 minutes or so each question. Success depends on being able to choose the best answer and you will often be given answers that are similar. Practice on dry, NONFICTION documents, wherever you can find them. Khan Academy has a small course on reading comprehension.
https://www.proprofs.com/flashcards/story.php?title=astb-reading_1
Skim the answers to get a general idea of which part of the passage to pay attention to. If you can’t rule out any answers based on the passage, eliminate everything with vernacular like “always”, “never”, etc.

MECHANICAL COMPREHENSION:
The Mechanical Section in other words just makes sense if you look at the problems and analyze what's going on. Give yourself the time as I believe correct answers > # of answers scored.
know how to convert between Fahrenheit, Celsius, and Kelvin.
G.O.W. Gasoline- 6lbs, Oil- 7.5 lbs, Water- 8.35 lbs
Formula for work
https://www.proprofs.com/flashcards/story.php?title=astb-mechanical-comprehension-test

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction, if something with a mass of 150 lbs moves 10 feet, something 4x its mass has to move 1/4th of the distance. The way they have it set up is correct I just think it's easier to think about the questions intuitively.

ANIT:
https://www.cram.com/flashcards/astb-aviation-history-6921638
Airspace: A, B, C, D, E
Aircrafts for Amateurs: https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/intro.htm
https://www.proprofs.com/flashcards/story.php?title=astb-aviation-nautical-information-test
Gleim pilots guide

NAVAL AVIATION TRAIT FACET INVENTORY: Most boring section of the test. Just answer the questions, be honest. No wrong answers.

UAV:
Flashcards: https://www.cram.com/flashcards/astb-uav-testing-6997985
Concentrate on getting a correct answer instead of speed. (Stay within 1-3 sec)
KNOW THESE COLD! Study 1-32 to sharpen up the concept then ONLY study 33-64 to study the practical application (this is what the test looks like)
- A trick I did was orient Left/Right. So if the UAV was going SouthEast, I knew that South was RIGHT, East was LEFT, North was LEFT-LEFT, and West was RIGHT-RIGHT.
- I studied these flashcards RELIGIOUSLY. But I only printed out the satellite image ones to study. I didn't bother with the paper compass ones, because the test is more similar to the satellite image (2nd half of the flashcards). When I got to this section, I only did 2 practice rounds (each practice round I believe was like 5 questions, you can do unlimited practicing here though, so if you need it take your time). But I was really confident, and I didn't miss a single problem, got everything correct in 1-2 seconds without the compass trick. If you are going for pilot, you should really know how to do this fast as I believe it's one of the more weighted ones.

PBM:
I wrote the direction and area of the throttles in large letters. On each scenario, I included the task, control, percentage and direction of control for the percentage. Writing down in large letters almost filling up the page helped tremendously.

Dichotic Listening:

Emergency Procedures:
RED MEANS HIGH & YELLOW MEANS LOW. There are two dials on the throttle, one on top (E dial) and one on the front (I dial), that control fuel and power. Then there is the clutch button (I button) in the center of the front dial (I dial). All the way left is 0% and all the way right is 100% for both dials. You experience a total of 3 emergencies during this task, and when one occurs you are told through the headphones “Warning, the Fire/Engine/Propeller light is on!” telling you exactly which emergency to deal with.
Deal with it quickly, which is really easy if you have the instructions written down, then get back to tracking. If you can manage, deal with the emergency with one hand while continuing to track both targets. I had the engine emergency first, then the fire emergency. I figured I would get the propeller emergency next, and prepared in advance for it, but instead got another fire emergency. This just goes to show that you will get a random mix of emergencies.

  • FIRE: “Fire down” (Fuel and power to low) For the fire emergency both dials need to be 0%, then you hit the clutch button.
  • ENGINE: “Power up” (Fuel up and power up) For the engine emergency, both dials need to be set to 100%, then you hit the clutch button.
  • PROPELLER: “Prop one up” (Fuel or power down and one neutral) For the propeller emergency, one dial (I want to say fuel) is set to 50% and the other is set to 100%, then you hit the clutch button.
It made operating emergencies fast for me personally when I recited it to myself... OUT LOUD!

Practice Test: https://www.triviumtestprep.com/astb-practice-test

Media to Watch/Listen to:
  • “Carrier”: PBS (11 parts) docu-series
  • “Angle of Attack”
  • Fighter Pilot Podcast
I received from other people and took to heart: -Bring water and trail mix. You're going to be nervous and that uses energy that your brain needs.
-Do some pushups between sections to work off any nervous energy.
-Don't be phased if you run out of time. The scoring algorithm for the test is proprietary so we can only guess what matters more: speed, accuracy, or difficulty of the question?
-Before I took the test, I was expecting to do well. During the test, I had no idea how I was performing. After the test, I was stunned that I did as well as I did. Moral of the story is do your best, keep trying, and trust yourself even if you're not sure how it's going overall.
-The more you do to prepare and familiarize yourself with what you'll encounter, the easier it will be to walk into the test with the attitude you need -- "I'm going to own this."
-Barron's was okay. It was easier than what I actually saw on the test but was a good introduction to what was coming. I would recommend it.
-All the other books people recommended to get were actually kind of bad. The study guides posted around here made by members of the Airwarriors forum were infinitely more valuable than any book I bought.
A helpful hint on here was to return your mouse cursor to the timer after you answer each problem. The timer is not shown unless you hover over it with the cursor.
The Mechanical Section in other words just makes sense if you look at the problems and analyze what's going on. Give yourself the time as I believe correct answers > # of answers scored.
The material on this thread will get you 60% there. Being a good test taker and building test taking skills will get you another 30%. But the last bit takes a lot of effort to know everything that could possibly be on the test.
Start on page 200 and work your way up to the most current page.
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CHOPS_avn #4509 AWESOME POST

Best of luck everyone! Thanks for the help
 

TF7325

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
Hey all, I've been going over the forums like crazy trying to prepare for the ASTB in a few weeks. I know the answer is C, but I don't exactly understand why. Can anyone help? Thank you in advance!
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