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1,001 questions about the ASTB (post your scores & ask your questions here!)

eranger24

Well-Known Member
That is an odd combination of scores
Looking back on the test I felt that I did really good on the stick and throttle, fumbled a couple numbers in the headphones, and felt that I was getting math questions I had never gotten on the tests prior or studied for. But here we are ?‍♂️
 

FormerRecruitingGuru

Making Recruiting Great Again
Is it true you have a better chance at getting picked up with average scores if you have a commercial pilots license? Still debating on retesting as I got a 53 6/6/6 my first time taking it with little studying. But I am told I am fine. Do they weight in other factors like degree types and previous flight experience or are scores their main focus for selecting?

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Took my final ASTB today and am happy to come away with a score of 55 7-8-8. Wanted to say a big thank you to everybody who has posted their study materials and tips here because they helped immensely and I've been on this site religiously for the last 5 months. I purchased a HOTAS X52 Pro joystick to prep with and used it in conjunction with the "Joystick Mapper" app (on Mac) to use Jantzen and Mike's simulator. I used the ASTB app for spatial appreciation prep and mainly Kyle's guide for academics. This is definitely not the best score on here but considering my first try was a 5-5-6, I've come a long way. Good luck everyone!
 

dav246

Well-Known Member
Just took my first ASTB attempt. Scores: 6/4/6 50. I am going the Marine route, have been told with my PFT scores and a 6/6/6 50-60 I would be competitive for this cycle.

Lookin for advice on how to raise that middle one to a 6. I will explain how each section went for me for context:

Math: whatever. Not my strongest suit, but I wouldn't say I am dumb with it. Smooth, nothing unexpected. Kicked me onward after like 12 problems.
Reading: same thing, but I am much better at reading than anything else.
Mech comp: Easier than I expected, but overall pretty predictable and smooth. Probably answered like 20 problems.

ANIT: Much easier than anticipated, predictable nautical knowledge and aviation questions. I was more than prepared with all the study materials I found on here.

NAFTI: I just answered the questions honestly. It wasn't always easy to compartmentalize and sometimes the options would be less than ideal or conflicting, but whatever. Just went with my gut.

PBM:
-UAV: I did excellent on this one, they tossed a few dozen at me, I only got one wrong, and I answered most of them in less than 5 seconds. That compass trick made it easy.
-DLT(dichotic listening): This is where I fucked up a lot, because I didn't read the instructions properly and didn't realize I was doing it wrong till I was about halfway through the EST. I didn't realize I was supposed to be listening through only one designated ear and disregarding the other one, so I was just slamming appropriate side trigger every time I heard a number. I kept on doing this through the whole PBM.
-ATT: Did okay, not a huge gamer and I found the inverted controls to be pretty tricky.
-VTT: Same thing, but this was easier than the ATT.
-AHTT: This was tricky as shit, I tried to keep the vertical in my periphery and focus mostly on the ATT half, but totally not used to it. Also the joysticks and throttle I were using didn't wanna stay still on the table while I was doing it.
-AVDLT(the "everything at once" one): Combined with the hearing snafu from before and the multitasking, I totally botched it. This is when I realized I was doing the hearing wrong the whole time. I tried to focus more on hearing than tracking.
-EST: Not as bad, still not great. When the emergency stuff popped up I made sure to address the specific problem promptly at the expense of tracking, then did my best to recover.

So that's the whole thing and my whole experience, the study guides and tricks and advice found all throughout the forums were more than enough for the knowledge parts (Invaluable, actually), I am fishing for advice on raising that middle score because I am already scheduled for my 2nd take on September 4th. Any and all advice and feedback is useful and very appreciated.
 

flyORdie

Active Member
Just took my first ASTB attempt. Scores: 6/4/6 50. I am going the Marine route, have been told with my PFT scores and a 6/6/6 50-60 I would be competitive for this cycle.

Lookin for advice on how to raise that middle one to a 6. I will explain how each section went for me for context:

Math: whatever. Not my strongest suit, but I wouldn't say I am dumb with it. Smooth, nothing unexpected. Kicked me onward after like 12 problems.
Reading: same thing, but I am much better at reading than anything else.
Mech comp: Easier than I expected, but overall pretty predictable and smooth. Probably answered like 20 problems.

ANIT: Much easier than anticipated, predictable nautical knowledge and aviation questions. I was more than prepared with all the study materials I found on here.

NAFTI: I just answered the questions honestly. It wasn't always easy to compartmentalize and sometimes the options would be less than ideal or conflicting, but whatever. Just went with my gut.

PBM:
-UAV: I did excellent on this one, they tossed a few dozen at me, I only got one wrong, and I answered most of them in less than 5 seconds. That compass trick made it easy.
-DLT(dichotic listening): This is where I fucked up a lot, because I didn't read the instructions properly and didn't realize I was doing it wrong till I was about halfway through the EST. I didn't realize I was supposed to be listening through only one designated ear and disregarding the other one, so I was just slamming appropriate side trigger every time I heard a number. I kept on doing this through the whole PBM.
-ATT: Did okay, not a huge gamer and I found the inverted controls to be pretty tricky.
-VTT: Same thing, but this was easier than the ATT.
-AHTT: This was tricky as shit, I tried to keep the vertical in my periphery and focus mostly on the ATT half, but totally not used to it. Also the joysticks and throttle I were using didn't wanna stay still on the table while I was doing it.
-AVDLT(the "everything at once" one): Combined with the hearing snafu from before and the multitasking, I totally botched it. This is when I realized I was doing the hearing wrong the whole time. I tried to focus more on hearing than tracking.
-EST: Not as bad, still not great. When the emergency stuff popped up I made sure to address the specific problem promptly at the expense of tracking, then did my best to recover.

So that's the whole thing and my whole experience, the study guides and tricks and advice found all throughout the forums were more than enough for the knowledge parts (Invaluable, actually), I am fishing for advice on raising that middle score because I am already scheduled for my 2nd take on September 4th. Any and all advice and feedback is useful and very appreciated.
It seems like the PBM sections are what tanked your score more than anything. Most people can get their UAV time down to sub 2 seconds per question with practice, ASTB Prep app ($10) is great for this but there is also flashcards posted around this forum. For the joystick and throttle there is a free sim here and you can even get the Logitech X52 Hotas throttle ($180) to use with the sim. Overall I would recommend brushing up a little on the OAR sections but definitely grind out Jantzen’s sim and UAV practice.
 

dav246

Well-Known Member
It seems like the PBM sections are what tanked your score more than anything. Most people can get their UAV time down to sub 2 seconds per question with practice, ASTB Prep app ($10) is great for this but there is also flashcards posted around this forum. For the joystick and throttle there is a free sim here and you can even get the Logitech X52 Hotas throttle ($180) to use with the sim. Overall I would recommend brushing up a little on the OAR sections but definitely grind out Jantzen’s sim and UAV practice.
Been hittin that sim on hard mode with mouse and key board, I seem to be kinda gettin the hang of it, consistently scoring under 100 for both of em, after starting near 400. Did end up buying that stick and throttle, was pretty thrilled to see that they were the exact ones I used on the test. Also been hitting some COD with inverted controls to get used to it, I am basically trying to undo every gaming instinct I have ever developed over the past 15 years. But I am convinced I can do it. In terms of UAV it looks like my average time is a consistent 3 seconds, don't know if I will ever get faster at that. In terms of listening, I am just gonna do it right next time and follow the instructions.
 

Dinosaurologist

Active Member
Just took my first ASTB attempt. Scores: 6/4/6 50. I am going the Marine route, have been told with my PFT scores and a 6/6/6 50-60 I would be competitive for this cycle.

Lookin for advice on how to raise that middle one to a 6. I will explain how each section went for me for context:

Math: whatever. Not my strongest suit, but I wouldn't say I am dumb with it. Smooth, nothing unexpected. Kicked me onward after like 12 problems.
Reading: same thing, but I am much better at reading than anything else.
Mech comp: Easier than I expected, but overall pretty predictable and smooth. Probably answered like 20 problems.

ANIT: Much easier than anticipated, predictable nautical knowledge and aviation questions. I was more than prepared with all the study materials I found on here.

NAFTI: I just answered the questions honestly. It wasn't always easy to compartmentalize and sometimes the options would be less than ideal or conflicting, but whatever. Just went with my gut.

PBM:
-UAV: I did excellent on this one, they tossed a few dozen at me, I only got one wrong, and I answered most of them in less than 5 seconds. That compass trick made it easy.
-DLT(dichotic listening): This is where I fucked up a lot, because I didn't read the instructions properly and didn't realize I was doing it wrong till I was about halfway through the EST. I didn't realize I was supposed to be listening through only one designated ear and disregarding the other one, so I was just slamming appropriate side trigger every time I heard a number. I kept on doing this through the whole PBM.
-ATT: Did okay, not a huge gamer and I found the inverted controls to be pretty tricky.
-VTT: Same thing, but this was easier than the ATT.
-AHTT: This was tricky as shit, I tried to keep the vertical in my periphery and focus mostly on the ATT half, but totally not used to it. Also the joysticks and throttle I were using didn't wanna stay still on the table while I was doing it.
-AVDLT(the "everything at once" one): Combined with the hearing snafu from before and the multitasking, I totally botched it. This is when I realized I was doing the hearing wrong the whole time. I tried to focus more on hearing than tracking.
-EST: Not as bad, still not great. When the emergency stuff popped up I made sure to address the specific problem promptly at the expense of tracking, then did my best to recover.

So that's the whole thing and my whole experience, the study guides and tricks and advice found all throughout the forums were more than enough for the knowledge parts (Invaluable, actually), I am fishing for advice on raising that middle score because I am already scheduled for my 2nd take on September 4th. Any and all advice and feedback is useful and very appreciated.
Did your recruiter say what PFT scores are considered competitive?
 

flyORdie

Active Member
I just got back my taking my first ASTB and got a 9/9/9 58. I studied for about 2.5 months and put in probably 150-200 hours of studying. I am a college student so I dedicated my summer to preparing for the test.
  • MATH
I heavily focused on math and started from the ground up (long division, etc) and then worked on harder concepts. I looked through Kyle's drive and made a list of each math concept. With this list, I found supplementary instruction and problems and drilled into each concept until I was confident.
  • READING
I did one of the practice tests in Kyle’s drive to get an idea of the types of questions, but that was all. The reading section was purely comprehension based.
  • MECHANICAL
I looked over the study guides in Kyle’s drive and created / found flashcards on the concepts. I didn’t worry about the small details as much as getting a general understanding of the concepts.
  • ANIT
I read all of the highlighted FAA handbook chapters. I took notes and used youtube for any concepts I didn't fully understand. Then I moved on to the 400 Cram flashcards and other quizlets. I didn’t get any history questions.
  • PBM
I practiced using Jantzen's sim and the ASTB prep app's UAV sim.
I used the compass trick and did NOT wait for the audio cure of which parking lot to select.
Lean into your target ear for the listening. My emergency procedures came in the order they were given in the instructions and I preset my knobs accordingly.
 
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dav246

Well-Known Member
I just got back my taking my first ASTB and got a 9/9/9 58. I studied for about 2.5 months and put in probably 150-200 hours of studying. I am a college student so I dedicated my summer to preparing for the test.
  • MATH
I heavily focused on math and started from the ground up (long division, etc) and then worked on harder concepts. I looked through Kyle's drive and made a list of each math concept. With this list, I found supplementary instruction and problems and drilled into each concept until I was confident.
  • READING
I did one of the practice tests in Kyle’s drive to get an idea of the types of questions, but that was all. The reading section was purely comprehension based.
  • MECHANICAL
I looked over the study guides in Kyle’s drive and created / found flashcards on the concepts. I didn’t worry about the small details as much as getting a general understanding of the concepts.
  • ANIT
I read all of the highlighted FAA handbook chapters. I took notes and used youtube for any concepts I didn't fully understand. Then I moved on to the 400 Cram flashcards and other quizlets. I didn’t get any history questions.
  • PBM
I practiced using Jantzen's sim and the ASTB prep app's UAV sim.
I used the compass trick and did NOT wait for the audio cure of which parking lot to select.
Lean into your target ear for the listening. My emergency procedures came in the order they were given in the instructions and I preset my knobs accordingly.
What do you mean by "lean in"? Like, tilt your head to the appropriate ear?
 

dav246

Well-Known Member
Wait, if you do poorly on the PBM, does it drag the rest of your scores down or is it more independent?

Been doing pretty well on the sim, I have it on hard mode and 100 seconds and am consistently scoring in the 80-90 range while doing the stick and throttle simultaneously. Still, I am starting to get a little scared.
 
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Wait, if you do poorly on the PBM, does it drag the rest of your scores down or is it more independent?

Been doing pretty well on the sim, I have it on hard mode and 100 seconds and am consistently scoring in the 80-90 range while doing the stick and throttle simultaneously. Still, I am starting to get a little scared.
I think so. First time I did terrible on the PBM and got a 4/4/4. 2nd time I spent months grinding out the simulators and just playing flight games with a joystick and throttle. Don't think I did any different on the academic side but it bumped me to a 9/9/9. PBM shouldn't effect your OAR but I think heavily impacts the others.
 

dav246

Well-Known Member
I think so. First time I did terrible on the PBM and got a 4/4/4. 2nd time I spent months grinding out the simulators and just playing flight games with a joystick and throttle. Don't think I did any different on the academic side but it bumped me to a 9/9/9. PBM shouldn't effect your OAR but I think heavily impacts the others.
Got any suggestions for flight games? I've just been hitting the sim and COD with inverted controls.
 
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