23 May 18 Pilot/NFO Selection Board

[Ozarky]

Just gave an aircraft rental check-out to one of the guys that was a pre-select on the last board and got back from OCS a week or so ago. He gave me the rundown of what to expect.. Told me that knowing Appendix B isn’t EXTREMELY important. He said about a quarter of the guys in his class “rolled” due to the physical tests. He was also telling me, there were college athletes rolling on the physical tests because of shin splints from their bodies not being used to running 20 miles a week on concrete. He said it’s more of a matter of how much pain you’re willing to endure to make it through. Apparently they’re starting to “up” the intensity of OCS, he was part of the first class to experience that. His class had 4 people faint the first day. About 60 out of the 100 guys that were in his class got rolled, mostly from physical strains. Not trying to scare anyone, just coming straight from the source.

Could this be specific to his class based on how his particular class instructors chose to coordinate the physical aspects of OCS? Or did he make it clear that this was a definite trend that will be taking place throughout upcoming classes?

 

[OnAPrayer]

Could this be specific to his class based on how his particular class instructors chose to coordinate the physical aspects of OCS? Or did he make it clear that this was a definite trend that will be taking place throughout upcoming classes?

That's actually a great question.

 

[Sparty1991]

Just gave an aircraft rental check-out to one of the guys that was a pre-select on the last board and got back from OCS a week or so ago. He gave me the rundown of what to expect.. Told me that knowing Appendix B isn’t EXTREMELY important. He said about a quarter of the guys in his class “rolled” due to the physical tests. He was also telling me, there were college athletes rolling on the physical tests because of shin splints from their bodies not being used to running 20 miles a week on concrete. He said it’s more of a matter of how much pain you’re willing to endure to make it through. Apparently they’re starting to “up” the intensity of OCS, he was part of the first class to experience that. His class had 4 people faint the first day. About 60 out of the 100 guys that were in his class got rolled, mostly from physical strains. Not trying to scare anyone, just coming straight from the source.

Plan for the worst but honestly if you want it bad enough you can do it. I don't think you need to hire a personal trainer or anything for OCS. I know it's different but when I went to Marine Corps boot camp I thought it was going to be the hardest thing I'd ever done physically, not even close. It's like 90% mental and I think the same thing will apply here. We're all checking this forum every 30 seconds for some sort of news . . .just remember that when we're all dying physically and we'll be fine.

 

[Seniuram]

The way I see it:
Memorize appendix B until you don’t fumble over anything.
Shoot for MAX scores on the PFT, nothing less.
Trying to cut corners now is only going to hurt in the long run.

 

[TheGreatGaspi23]

That’s ex

The way I see it:
Memorize appendix B until you don’t fumble over anything.
Shoot for MAX scores on the PFT, nothing less.
Trying to cut corners now is only going to hurt in the long run.

That’s exactly it, we have all the answers to the test.. it just comes down to studying mentally and physically.

You gotta realize the Drill Instructors or OCS staff want you to pass. If you do your part everything will be fine

 

[Mckegger]

Could this be specific to his class based on how his particular class instructors chose to coordinate the physical aspects of OCS? Or did he make it clear that this was a definite trend that will be taking place throughout upcoming classes?

He said they actually introduced it so hard to his class, that they’re going to tone it down “a bit”. But essentially, yes, the trend is to make it more challenging for future classes.

The way I see it:
Memorize appendix B until you don’t fumble over anything.
Shoot for MAX scores on the PFT, nothing less.
Trying to cut corners now is only going to hurt in the long run.

I’m just talking strategically here... It’s important to know Appendix B but it’s almost more important to be in better physical condition for OCS. My guy said you’re going to get yelled at even if you know your knowledge, or if you do something perfectly right anyways.

 

[peppergunner]

Is the '20 miles per week' statistic an accurate representation of OCS running workload?

 

[aribjc]

When my friend went last January he said there were kids there that could barely run 2 miles without taking a break, or who couldn't PT for even 20 minutes without having an issue. Just saying that I wouldn't get too worried about the increased physical stuff and that it is more of a response to people who simply are showing up to a military officer training course and are not physically prepared. If you can run 3-4 miles at a decent pace, and you workout 5 days a week and feel like you had a good workout when you finished, I think you'll be fine. I wouldn't want to be there with someone who just thought they could run for a month before OCS and coast to the end either.

 

[peppergunner]

When my friend went last January he said there were kids there that could barely run 2 miles without taking a break, or who couldn't PT for even 20 minutes without having an issue. Just saying that I wouldn't get too worried about the increased physical stuff and that it is more of a response to people who simply are showing up to a military officer training course and are not physically prepared. If you can run 3-4 miles at a decent pace, and you workout 5 days a week and feel like you had a good workout when you finished, I think you'll be fine. I wouldn't want to be there with someone who just thought they could run for a month before OCS and coast to the end either.

A former Sub Officer on YouTube quoted, "Be able to run 40min at an 8min mile pace". I have forever until I can go to OCS so I'm making that the goal. Just working on strengthening shins now so I don't have that issue.

 

[agriz33]

Another spreadsheet issue...make sure your changes/sortings keep the integrity of the data or make a copy and go wild making whatever alterations. If you want to do sortings, make sure all the columns are selected before you sort. Reverted to the version yesterday at 2:30 PST

 

[HTR]

Just gave an aircraft rental check-out to one of the guys that was a pre-select on the last board and got back from OCS a week or so ago. He gave me the rundown of what to expect.. Told me that knowing Appendix B isn’t EXTREMELY important. He said about a quarter of the guys in his class “rolled” due to the physical tests. He was also telling me, there were college athletes rolling on the physical tests because of shin splints from their bodies not being used to running 20 miles a week on concrete. He said it’s more of a matter of how much pain you’re willing to endure to make it through. Apparently they’re starting to “up” the intensity of OCS, he was part of the first class to experience that. His class had 4 people faint the first day. About 60 out of the 100 guys that were in his class got rolled, mostly from physical strains. Not trying to scare anyone, just coming straight from the source.

Sounds like a new ENS wants to sound bad ass and important. haha

 

[Matty Morocco]

Another spreadsheet issue...make sure your changes/sortings keep the integrity of the data or make a copy and go wild making whatever alterations. If you want to do sortings, make sure all the columns are selected before you sort. Reverted to the version yesterday at 2:30 PST

You are a saint. You really made that sheet your baby

 

[Fifrein]

When my friend went last January he said there were kids there that could barely run 2 miles without taking a break, or who couldn't PT for even 20 minutes without having an issue. Just saying that I wouldn't get too worried about the increased physical stuff and that it is more of a response to people who simply are showing up to a military officer training course and are not physically prepared. If you can run 3-4 miles at a decent pace, and you workout 5 days a week and feel like you had a good workout when you finished, I think you'll be fine. I wouldn't want to be there with someone who just thought they could run for a month before OCS and coast to the end either.

I hope I don't sound like that. Rather, I may have been misinterpreted in my last statement. I fully intend to do everything I can, but I've led a fairly sedentary life until now, so working up to the point required by OCS will take time. Given I'm not sure how much time I have until then, My goal currently is just to be in shape when the time comes, rather than to be the most fit person in my class. The A in SMART Goals stands for Attainable.

Right now I'm at a 10 minute mile, and can't run much farther, but I'm trying to run as close to every day as I can to build that up.

 

[RocksAndWedes]

I hope I don't sound like that. Rather, I may have been misinterpreted in my last statement. I fully intend to do everything I can, but I've led a fairly sedentary life until now, so working up to the point required by OCS will take time. Given I'm not sure how much time I have until then, My goal currently is just to be in shape when the time comes, rather than to be the most fit person in my class. The A in SMART Goals stands for Attainable.

Right now I'm at a 10 minute mile, and can't run much farther, but I'm trying to run as close to every day as I can to build that up.

What are the longest runs you are doing?

Run longer to run faster. And when you run on those days you’re doing 6+ Miles run slow. I promise speed will come. I was once in your shoes.

 

[aribjc]

I hope I don't sound like that. Rather, I may have been misinterpreted in my last statement. I fully intend to do everything I can, but I've led a fairly sedentary life until now, so working up to the point required by OCS will take time. Given I'm not sure how much time I have until then, My goal currently is just to be in shape when the time comes, rather than to be the most fit person in my class. The A in SMART Goals stands for Attainable.

Right now I'm at a 10 minute mile, and can't run much farther, but I'm trying to run as close to every day as I can to build that up.

Shoot me your email in a message and I'll send you a running workout if you want, but your times are simply not going to improve if you're only running about a mile a day. Like rocks said above me, you just gotta put miles on your feet and your times will plummet. 2-3 consistent weeks and you'll be amazed at what you can do. Plus if you don't get some miles now, the shin splints will get ya