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25JAN21 PILOT/NFO BOARD

Duffman

Duffman

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Silver-Shades said:
Unofficially, my recruiter was mentioning end of 2021 beginning of 2022 for SNA. but this is based off what my recruiter was told
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So the people that get FY 2022 means that they’ll get any date between the 2022 fiscal year. The next fiscal year for the military is Oct 1st 2021- Sept 30th 2022. The fiscal year means on what year it ends. So say if you get selected to be a pilot and you get FY 2022, you’ll get a date sometime between those dates above. I’m pretty sure.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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JoeyMC said:
So the people that get FY 2022 means that they’ll get any date between the 2022 fiscal year. The next fiscal year for the military is Oct 1st 2021- Sept 30th 2022. The fiscal year means on what year it ends. So say if you get selected to be a pilot and you get FY 2022, you’ll get a date sometime between those dates above. I’m pretty sure.
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nope if you are FY 22 you will get an OCS class up date of 2nd week of July 2021 or later.
 
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Goldy421

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exNavyOffRec said:
in regards to aviation it is PFAR and FOFAR depending on what you are going for, OAR doesn't matter. GPA will factor in as well but not as much as other designators, I have seen several candidates with outstanding GPA's and minimum PFAR or FOFAR get No's, while those with marginal GPA's and great PFAR/FOFAR get a yes. I would classify a marginal GPA as about 2.8 range, below that and it could be noticed as more of a negative thing.

The thing is each designator is different, Supply for example isn't a hard school to get through so they can look at not only degree, GPA, but also what that person has done, Nuke looks hard at grades to make sure they can get through nuke school and they have hard interviews, Aviation also needs to look at the best indicator of a person getting through their pipeline so that is why they focus on PFAR and FOFAR as that is the best indicator of a person succeeding, it isn't perfect but nothing is.
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What makes you think or how do you know that the OAR score doesn't matter for aviation selection? Only asking because my OAR is super low compared to everyone elses.
 
HeartofTexas

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NevarYalnal said:
his username?
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I think his question is more directed at why wouldn't a board consider all the scores from an ASTBE test. Like if you took the SAT but a school only looked at the Critical Reading and Math score and not the writing portion or whatever.

I'm very obviously not an officer recruiter (current or prior) so I would assume it's just a way to save time on the quick calculation of getting through all the applicants if you're concentrating on 2 scores compared to 3. I could see OAR and GPA being supplemental if the board needs a bigger picture of an applicant if they need a few more to accept and it's between a small pool (??). ??‍♀️
 
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exNavyOffRec

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Goldy421 said:
What makes you think or how do you know that the OAR score doesn't matter for aviation selection? Only asking because my OAR is super low compared to everyone elses.
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When it comes to aviation they are looking at factors that will predict success to get wings, that would be the PFAR or FOFAR, the OAR is more used as a screening tool, that is why the OAR has shifted for non aviation designators from 35 to 50 on a whim of who is in charge of NRC. In most cases OAR will follow GPA for recent college grads, not so much for those out of college for a few years. The PFAR and FOFAR are not perfect and of course you will see those with high scores not make it and you will see some with low scores that will have long careers.

NRC has all this data and most of it is kept locked away with no one getting access to it, I happened to work with an officer who had a contact at NRC and since the data was not restricted we were able to get it. I wish I had kept a copy of it as the trends over time really didn't change with a few exceptions.
 
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Goldy421

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exNavyOffRec said:
When it comes to aviation they are looking at factors that will predict success to get wings, that would be the PFAR or FOFAR, the OAR is more used as a screening tool, that is why the OAR has shifted for non aviation designators from 35 to 50 on a whim of who is in charge of NRC. In most cases OAR will follow GPA for recent college grads, not so much for those out of college for a few years. The PFAR and FOFAR are not perfect and of course you will see those with high scores not make it and you will see some with low scores that will have long careers.

NRC has all this data and most of it is kept locked away with no one getting access to it, I happened to work with an officer who had a contact at NRC and since the data was not restricted we were able to get it. I wish I had kept a copy of it as the trends over time really didn't change with a few exceptions.
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I appreciate your insight, thank you!
 
KaleDaSquid

KaleDaSquid

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PontusPilot said:
Don't get my hopes up!
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Buddy I work with got in with a 47 5/7/6 for SNA on the last board. So, I am saying it is doable. He has managed some large portfolios and some leadership experience. So PFAR and FOFAR are good and recommendations/ work experience are strong. His statement was trash tbh.

Obviously @exNavyOffRec has it down. Leadership/Resume + PFAR/FOFAR = SNA/SNFO rate.
 
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