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31OCT22 SNA/SNFO BOARD

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exNavyOffRec

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Thunder said:
I submitted everything back in early march and my recruiter really encouraged me to put down supply also so I did not really thinking it would come to this. Will it hurt my chances if I decline it? Also I've read that you have to have a substantial change to a package in order to reapply within six months so that is why I was planning on retaking it.
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Will it hurt your chances if you do well and get an 8 or 9 on the PFAR and apply for SNA, probably not, but turning down a non-aviation job is a bit different, pretty much you will be done when it comes to getting selected for any non-aviation role.

If you get a 7 or lower on the PFAR you might be done there as well considering you received a "N" with a 7 already.

Just like a civilian application you never put in for a job you aren't willing to accept.
 
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davidc1220

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WorldWar33.3 said:
This. I'm turning 29 in November and applying USMC (with age waiver), Navy, and I'm looking at Army WOFT as a last resort.
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I might actually go the Army WOFT route, it might work out better for me than the Navy, after speaking with the Army and finding out the process is practically the same, its not a bad option
 
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Thunder

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exNavyOffRec said:
Will it hurt your chances if you do well and get an 8 or 9 on the PFAR and apply for SNA, probably not, but turning down a non-aviation job is a bit different, pretty much you will be done when it comes to getting selected for any non-aviation role.

If you get a 7 or lower on the PFAR you might be done there as well considering you received a "N" with a 7 already.

Just like a civilian application you never put in for a job you aren't willing to accept.
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Would it be dumb to retake the astb then? The first time I took it my recruiter only had me take the OAR so that used up one of my attempts. Is there any other way to make a substantial change to the application without retaking or will they just give me an N again if they see the 7 again
 
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davidc1220

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Thunder said:
Would it be dumb to retake the astb then? The first time I took it my recruiter only had me take the OAR so that used up one of my attempts. Is there any other way to make a substantial change to the application without retaking or will they just give me an N again if they see the 7 again
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This i feel applies to me, what are the chances that someone resubmitting gets selected the second time with no big change to the application or ASTB
 
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exNavyOffRec

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Thunder said:
Would it be dumb to retake the astb then? The first time I took it my recruiter only had me take the OAR so that used up one of my attempts. Is there any other way to make a substantial change to the application without retaking or will they just give me an N again if they see the 7 again
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7's make me nervous, and the fact it is your last shot makes me more nervous, you need to do what you feel is best for you in this circumstance.
 
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Thunder

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exNavyOffRec said:
7's make me nervous, and the fact it is your last shot makes me more nervous, you need to do what you feel is best for you in this circumstance.
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I'm leaning more towards retaking it, i'll be putting it all on the line anyways by declining supply. Might as well bust my ass studying every day for the next month and see what happens.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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Upwardbound said:
Some young buck is gonna pick up a NFO contract in a few days because I’m dropping mine. I finally made the decision. If y’all don’t know, I applied only SNA, was selected NFO. I’m honored but I have other aspirations as a pilot. Applying Marines as well as reapplying navy.
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The NFO spot will go back into the pool to be used for the next board
 
elariosa95

elariosa95

SNA (Primary - VT-6)
I vaguely remember seeing something about this, but has anyone seen/done any data analysis on previous board results?

I'm curious to see what factors are most likely to affect applicants' chances of getting selected. For example, if someone with a 9 PFAR and 2 years of management experience and someone with a 6/7 PFAR and a few years AD with leadership experience went head-to-head, who would end up getting the spot?

Convention would tell me the 9 PFAR gets it because that's the highest score possible and they also have some experience in managing people, but I'm seeing a few people from the May board with 6s/7s who got picked up and are AD.

I'm not one to question the board's decisions and I don't mean to scare anyone else applying, but I'm just interested in finding out what boxes one has to check off to get a PROREC-Y and if there are any exceptions or special cases.

Edit: I also remember someone making a program of some sort where you input your scores and it tells you your chance of getting selected. Does anyone else remember seeing this or is the heat just getting to me?

Edit 2: I'm on my lunch break so I did some digging. It turns out that someone made the model for the May 2022 board and it's about 93% accurate. The guy who made it tested his own scores and the model predicted he would get picked up; sure enough, he got selected. Here's the link to the post: https://www.airwarriors.com/community/threads/23may2022-sna-snfo-board.48542/post-1059662
 
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space_sailor

space_sailor

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elariosa95 said:
I'm not one to question the board's decisions and I don't mean to scare anyone else applying, but I'm just interested in finding out what boxes one has to check off to get a PROREC-Y and if there are any exceptions or special cases.
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Just be careful before drawing conclusions - looked like according to @Maze_soba 's Age is the biggest determining factor.
Which could be the board looks at Age as a factor OR people who are older have better studying skills and end up doing better on the ASTB.

correlation vs causation and all that jazz
 
elariosa95

elariosa95

SNA (Primary - VT-6)
space_sailor said:
Just be careful before drawing conclusions - looked like according to @Maze_soba 's Age is the biggest determining factor.
Which could be the board looks at Age as a factor OR people who are older have better studying skills and end up doing better on the ASTB.

correlation vs causation and all that jazz
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Sounds like we need to balance out the data by getting some 15-year-old fighter pilots like those jerks that kicked my ass in Battlefield 1943 back in the day
 
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