AH-1W vs Mi24

[nittany03]

For you IFS types, look for the Mi-24 and the Antonov transport on the ramp at DTS . . . or maybe they've been moved but they were there when I went through. And I remember the British Hercs flying out of CEW as well, although my primary memory of the Herc was when one of them flipped an Aero Club 172 that taxiied too close . . .

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Dang, Fly, beat me to it!

 

[TheBubba]

There is a white Mi-24 and a white Mi-8 at Destin-Ft Walton Beach. I think the Mi-8 is called Vodka 1

The Mi-8 is painted cammie... I think the -24 is too. There's also an old C-23 Sherpa on the flight line.

The C-23

 

[Fly Navy]

The Mi-8 is painted cammie... I think the -24 is too.

Then that's new. Mind you, I haven't been to DTS in over a year.

 

[TheBubba]

Fly,

Do you know if those two birds are privately owned?

 

[phrogpilot73]

For those of you going "in country", expect to see those C-23's relatively regularly... Operated by OGAs and Blackwater... For some reason they like to fly at helo altitudes. First couple of times, the reaction was "what the fvck was that?!?"

 

[Fly Navy]

Fly,

Do you know if those two birds are privately owned?

The way it was explained to me was they were privately owned, either by person or corporation, and get leased to Eglin for Agressor type training.

 

[Gatordev]

There's a lot of that, as it's cheaper for someone else to operate them rather than the military (like the L-39s). Another interesting thing to do is go to the FAA website and look up MI-8/17 registration numbers. There are several that are registered in MD or VA. Hmmm, I wonder what's there?

 

[E5B]

A little over a year ago I flew into Florala during HT's for some BBQ and a coke and there was a Mi-8 (camo pattern) on the ramp. This one was operated by some US Army types.

On a side note, couple of months ago our Sqdn did some DM (defensive Maneuvering) against some A-10s and got absolutely raped. Good times.

 

[Fly Navy]

On a side note, couple of months ago our Sqdn did some DM (defensive Maneuvering) against some A-10s and got absolutely raped. Good times.

I'd hate to see the mince-meat that 30mm would make of another aircraft... or maybe I WOULD like to see that. It'd be pretty bad ass

Ever see this picture? Tank vs Helicopter. Tank won.

 

[skidkid]

I bet I can find more pictures where the helicopter came out on top.

A-10s are fun to fight becasue they actually have an anti-helo syllabus and come down low to play.

 

[Fly Navy]

I bet I can find more pictures where the helicopter came out on top.

I don't doubt that one bit.

How great is that threat though, of a tank giving you effective return fire?

A-10s are fun to fight becasue they actually have an anti-helo syllabus and come down low to play.

I did not know that. That's pretty cool.

 

[skidkid]

Tanks shooting back is a threat but not a big one.

 

[phrogpilot73]

A-10s are fun to fight becasue they actually have an anti-helo syllabus and come down low to play.

Agree wholeheartedly, once you call A-10 squadrons at Seymour Johnson and ask about Fixed Wing DM, they fall over themselves. I guess the AF rotorheads don't like to play with them that much... The only hard part is getting your CO to buy off on it ("Why don't we use Harriers?!?").

 

[ChuckMK23]

A little over a year ago I flew into Florala during HT's for some BBQ and a coke and there was a Mi-8 (camo pattern) on the ramp. This one was operated by some US Army types.

On a side note, couple of months ago our Sqdn did some DM (defensive Maneuvering) against some A-10s and got absolutely raped. Good times.

ThreadJack - I miss Florala! Man that was my oasis - I take credit for being one of the early adopters of Florala for gas, food, etc. I had a fuel card/RON pack permanently checked out in my name from pubs issue - kept the fuel card in my wallet the whole 36 months I was an IP. Double pump BI's with lunch inbetween? No problem!

The popcorn, the burritos, ... ahhhhh! About as good as it gets in the TH-57!

 

[ChuckMK23]

For those of you going "in country", expect to see those C-23's relatively regularly... Operated by OGAs and Blackwater... For some reason they like to fly at helo altitudes. First couple of times, the reaction was "what the fvck was that?!?"

The C-23 is also known as the Shorts 360 - and there are a ton of them on the used market right now. Perfect for logitical work over there.

When you think of all the aviation services contracts open right now - in theatre - it boggles the mind. Literally if you have a spare aircraft, pilots, and mechanics - it seems you can get a 12 or 18 month contract flying log runs. Check the DOD RFP web sites...