We had the Indians parked across the ramp from us for that Flag. Part of the reason, they said, for their cautiousness regarding FOD is that Ivan doesn't make parts available. Any time an engine craps out, they have to buy complete engines from the Motherland. That was an interesting time at Red Flag this year. The Flanker sounds weird, I don't think I'll ever be able to forget the sound of those engines. The Koreans were flying brand-new Slam Eagles (F-15K) that were flown straight from the production line to Nellis. Sweet-looking jets.