Another "praise the Raptor" article

[picklesuit]

Screw the Raptor...

Now THIS is a fine piece of machinery...


Pickle

 

[Malo83]

ha,ha, surely you Jest
This is the one!

 

[picklesuit]

Hey man...those carrier prop planes are no joke...tough little bastards...I would love to go for a ride...

 

[stickygdm]

What is it about the slower the plane the longer the youTube video?
P-3 = 9:40
E-2 = 7:47

...or number of props?

 

[Sky-Pig]

ha,ha, surely you Jest
This is the one!

Maybe the best pre-game fly-by I've ever seen was done by a Hawkeye before a Navy home game.

I was sitting in the upper deck on the visitor's side (don't ask) and distinctly remember being darn near eye-level with the co-pilot.

It's possible my perception was somewhat altered by certain pre-game beverage consumption but I've never seen an aircraft appear to come in lower than the stadium lights.

 

[picklesuit]

What is it about the slower the plane the longer the youTube video?
P-3 = 9:40
E-2 = 7:47

...or number of props?

Hey, not all of us finish up in 30 seconds like you pointy-nose fags...some of us like to enjoy the ride a little...

 

[HAL Pilot]

Job 13:5 "oh that you would shut your mouth and that would be your wisdom."

HAL Pilot 1:1 "STFU you idiot wanna-be".

I like my version better....

 

[nittany03]

I will say this very clearly for our new crop of aviation nerd wannabes. I know because I was one at your age.

It doesn't matter what you read in Jane's. The answers you seek are classified and will not be discussed here. You know less than you think you do because you have no clearance or need to know.

Those who talk don't know. Those who know can't talk.

 

[Malo83]

SU-30 Demo

 

[whitesoxnation]

This is a dumb question but, in the video when it was doing its minimum radius turn the announcer said its "not a high g turn"... how can you turn level at that angle and its not at high g's? Does thrust vectoring alleviate that?

 

[Mumbles]

This is a dumb question but, in the video when it was doing its minimum radius turn the announcer said its "not a high g turn"... how can you turn level at that angle and its not at high g's? Does thrust vectoring alleviate that?

It's a function of velocity when the aircraft enters the turn. For instance if the F-22 is doing 700 knots and the pilot turns as hard as the flight controls will allow him to, he's gonna honk on a butt-load of G....but his turn radius may be only slightly smaller than that of the USS New Jersey. Vice, if he were to perform the same at 300-400 knots (min radius turn speed) probably half the G.

 

[whitesoxnation]

It's a function of velocity when the aircraft enters the turn. For instance if the F-22 is doing 700 knots and the pilot turns as hard as the flight controls will allow him to, he's gonna honk on a butt-load of G....but his turn radius may be only slightly smaller than that of the USS New Jersey. Vice, if he were to perform the same at 300-400 knots (min radius turn speed) probably half the G.

Thanks, but I'm still a little confused.. I thought that if you want to turn in as little distance as possible that you pull as many G's as is tolerable at the slowest airspeed for that many G's (biggest thing i've flown is a piper seminole)

 

[EM1toNFO]

Thanks, but I'm still a little confused.. I thought that if you want to turn in as little distance as possible that you pull as many G's as is tolerable at the slowest airspeed for that many G's (biggest thing i've flown is a piper seminole)

Physics/Calculus... the rate of entry speed and turn radius will determine how many "G's" you'll pull. Because the circumference of the circle and how fast you go around that circle will determine you "rate of change" of your velocity, also known as a first derivative of a position function. (remember velocity is not only a speed, but also a direction). You're speed isn't changing, it's your direction. Therefore, due to Newton's 2nd law, objects in motion will continue in motion until an outside source acts upon them. Therefore, as your aircraft turns, your body keeps wanting to go straight (along a tangential path to the turn) except that your arss.. (as*) hits the seat and you experience a force. when that force equals that which you would normally feel due to the earth's graitational field, it equals 1 G.

School is now out... Dissmissed...

EDIT*** Not saying I know exactly what I'm talking about, but I do understand physics, dynamics, and calculus.

 

[Kodiak]

Physics/Calculus... the rate of entry speed and turn radius will determine how many "G's" you'll pull. Because the circumference of the circle and how fast you go around that circle will determine you "rate of change" of your velocity, also known as a first derivative of a position function. (remember velocity is not only a speed, but also a direction). You're speed isn't changing, it's your direction. Therefore, due to Newton's 2nd law, objects in motion will continue in motion until an outside source acts upon them. Therefore, as your aircraft turns, your body keeps wanting to go straight (along a tangential path to the turn) except that your arss.. (as*) hits the seat and you experience a force. when that force equals that which you would normally feel due to the earth's graitational field, it equals 1 G.

School is now out... Dissmissed...

EDIT*** Not saying I know exactly what I'm talking about, but I do understand physics, dynamics, and calculus.

I'll just push the "I Believe" button.

 

[Kazimake]

Think of it like you're in your car. If you're going 100mph, and you turn the wheel as hard as you can, you will not make a very tight turn (and probably flip your car [i.e. lots of g's]), but if you're going 20mph, you won't really be thrown to the side and will probably make a pretty tight turn. Think of the min radius turn as a 20mph turn, they're just trying to turn in as little space as possible, so they aren't going super fast and as a result don't pull a whole lot of g's.

(not a pilot, but I believe my logic is correct. Please correct me if I'm wrong)