F/A-22N Sea Raptor??
Navalize the Raptor?? These Aussies think we should.
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-230209-1.html
Navalize the Raptor?? These Aussies think we should.
http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-NOTAM-230209-1.html
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Another "praise the Raptor" article
- Thread starter Lonestar155
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just curious about the ass-hattery.....I saw one of them went to USNTPS.
Carlo Kopp is kind of infamous for being an asshat, from what I've gathered. Big proponent of the F-22, talks a lot of shit about the JSF.
Nice concept--10 years ago. The train has left the station on the Rhino and to a lesser extent JSF and F-22.
Shack!!
The worlds' greatest instrument of Air Superiority has not come without great cost. I'll be the first to jump on the "this thing is fucking amazing" bandwagon - but, the price has been high, both politically as well as financially, for the Air Force. Not sure why we were able to bring in the F-117A (an equally, for it's time anyway, advanced aircraft) with such relative ease and the F-22 has been surrounded with controversy. Perhaps the secrecy of the early stealth project also shielded it from the political drama. It seems the only thing the Air Force, as a whole, agrees on about the F-22 is that it kicks ass in a fight. No doubting that.
If the Navy does go this route, hopefully they can avoid the dividing effect it had on their "sister" force.
Never fails, bring a hot chick into the O-club and there's bound to be a fist-fight. Still though, nobody wants her to leave
If you dig a little more into the site it has a lot of speculation, is very amatuerish and even uses cheap gimmicks to get their point across. The main guy in charge of the site talks up his background as a pilot and the fact he flew a Super Hornet. But his background as a pilot is entirely private and he only had a single incentive/sales flight in the back of a SH, though the two bio pics conveniently have him in full flight gear. And I instinctively wary of anyone who shows of their 'credentials', like this: Carlo Kopp, BE(Hons), MSc, PhD, SMAIAA, MIEEE, PEng. I understand the importance and custom of post-nominal letters in Commonwealth society but that is a bit much. The co-head of that site did graduate from USNTPS as a Flight Test Engineer but doesn't seem to have much of a tactical background at all, if any.
Carlo Kopp bio
Peter Goon bio
Personalities aside though, their analysis is amatuerish and full of inaccurate assumptions, speculation and a glaring lack of reality. They base many of their assumptions about Russian fighters from what seems like sales literature from Sukhoi and speculate about weapon systems that aren't fielded yet, and may never be. Taking claims from sales material and Russian press then making them out to be fact is probably not going to make your product grounded in reality.
They seem to have an extreme dislike of of the F-35 and every paper talking about it seems to be geared towards it's supposed deficiencies. They frequently and deliberately downplay the capabilities of the F-35, often only using only its internal weapons capability while sometimes ignoring the fact that it can carry externally. At the same time they seem fixated on the F-111 thinking it is the greatest ever, claiming it can be modified to serve for many more years while ignoring other replacements. It has the feel of a sales pitch, which I think it may be.
There are numerous other things about the site that bother me; their resident 'Russian fighter pilot' that seems nothing more than a gimmick, the amount of work produced, their blatant errors and numerous assumptions (often false), their funding source/s (?) and their purely 'engineering' viewpoint on things. Hardly a mention on pilot training or proficiency. But what else would you expect from a pair of engineers with very little 'real-world' military experience.
These guys are getting a lot of press in Australia and seem to have gotten some kind of credibility down there, I believe even testifying in Parliment. But they seem to be nothing more than a pair of amatuers with some kind of agenda and very little first-hand experience in the subject. Revenge of the nerds Aussie-style I guess.
Shack!!
If the Navy does go this route, hopefully they can avoid the dividing effect it had on their "sister" force.
Never fails, bring a hot chick into the O-club and there's bound to be a fist-fight. Still though, nobody wants her to leave
Don't worry, I think there is a snowballs chance in hell of the Navy getting an F-22. You can keep your high-maintenance, spoiled princess to yourselves. She is going to drain you dry then leave you in the end anyways.
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
So F-22 = Manatee?
If the Manatee looked like Megan Fox and had some class, maybe.
Don't worry, I think there is a snowballs chance in hell of the Navy getting an F-22. You can keep your high-maintenance, spoiled princess to yourselves. She is going to drain you dry then leave you in the end anyways.
Well, it's not often pilots are accused of making good decisions when it comes to women. Especially when they look so good, and put out, ............... wait, this whole F-22 thing is starting to make a lot more sense
Well, it's not often pilots are accused of making good decisions when it comes to women. Especially when they look so good, and put out, ............... wait, this whole F-22 thing is starting to make a lot more sense
Get back to me when you are living in a van, down by the river. Next door to MB.
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
HEY! I live in a PUMA down by Little Creek Cove.
Not quite the van down by the river. But close.
Not quite the van down by the river. But close.
CWJones411
IRR
Would the Air Force ever let this happen? They seem pretty territorial about these kinds of things.