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Are Naval aviators really away from home more than Air Force pilots?

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
Having been stationed at Miramar before being stationed at Lemoore, I'd say let's never compare or conflate the two ever again.

Lemoore is the worst place I've ever been. I said what I said.

At least last time I was there, after either of us flew from Miramar, there is a chipotle. Not that it's saying much, but it has never been Lemoore.
 

hscs

Registered User
pilot
That might work on the mainland, but not way out here. NEXCOM can't force a vendor to open up shop here. 90 Sailors doesn't move the needle on anyone's bottom line, and you can't honestly justify things like uniform shop, tailor, dry cleaner, etc. There isn't even a dry cleaner on the island of Kauai. We're lucky to have a barber 3 days per week. As a result, we do a lot of business with the NEX/MCEX on Oahu. It's an adjustment, but ultimately not a significant hardship.

Price of living in paradise. 🤙🌺
Comment was from perspective where NEXCOM has facilities to man but then doesn’t keep up their end of the bargain to the support sailors. The civilians there don’t think about the sailors. For example, they forgot they owed our MWR $100k due to a single point of failure.
 

Leo203

Active Member
None
A friend's 18 year old kid is heading to Lemoore as a maintainer and asked me what I would give as a "graduation/going away" gift. I said "a car, because that's the only way to escape Lemoore on the weekends". I honestly have no idea how the junior enlisted guys in the barracks do it when the only thing to do without a car is work out and go to McDonalds.

Lemoore, and being told I had to take orders keeping me there, was one of (not the only, but certainly up there) the reasons why I punched. Air Guard has been the way to go on the other side.
 

Sponge

Soaking up info
pilot
I neglected to read the 5 pages of responses, I am just replying off of your title for the post. I'm gone a lot more than I thought I'd be. RFF, Dets, Deployments, training, ground job classes, etc. Idk what they do in the Airforce but I'm starting to think its anything but work over there.
 

taxi1

Well-Known Member
pilot
I think USAF pilots get kicked out of the home by their spouses more than Naval Aviators. Goes without saying.
 

PhrogPhlyer

Two heads are better than one.
pilot
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So, there are so few USAF and other service pilots looking to go Guard that they need undergrads? I'm confused.
 

cfam

Well-Known Member
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Super Moderator
Contributor
So, there are so few USAF and other service pilots looking to go Guard that they need undergrads? I'm confused.
Pretty standard to be honest. Almost all guard units home grow some of their pilots. Some of them are enlisted personnel who select while they’re in the unit, as they’re a known quantity.
 

ChuckMK23

FERS and TSP contributor!
pilot
So, there are so few USAF and other service pilots looking to go Guard that they need undergrads? I'm confused.
Still very competitive, however, however if you are a physically fit college grad with a private pilot rating, you will get a lot of recruiting love! A path to a commission and pilot training is highly probable.

The AF at least is still significantly short of pilots across active, guard, and reserves.
 

Swanee

Cereal Killer
pilot
None
Contributor
So, there are so few USAF and other service pilots looking to go Guard that they need undergrads? I'm confused.

We hire some off the street folks, or some of our enlisted folks. Almost every unit does. Some don't- I know the Va F-22 unit only takes qualified F-22 guys off of AD.

There is value of having some "guard baby" officers that can have 20+ years of service within the ANG.

We even took a "Palace Front" kid from ROTC. That's a great deal if you can swing it.
 

HuggyU2

Well-Known Member
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About 16 months ago, I was a guest at a Guard event that coincided with a "pilot rush" weekend for an F-35 unit. There were about 30 candidates there. I met and talked to many of them. It was a "quality group".

There were 2 pilot slots to be given out.
 

PhrogPhlyer

Two heads are better than one.
pilot
None
Guard event that coincided with a "pilot rush"
Learned something new. Back in the good ole '70s, the Guard and Reserves were filled with Viet Nam vets. The only officer/pilot recruiting I remember was for the active services, with the Marine OSO hitting my school's flight tech department heavily. And after a couple parties at the old Philadelphia Navy Yard, and T-28 flights from NAS Willow Grove, it was a done deal.
 
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