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Article Reviews Chinese Air Power in Transition
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So if Israel had the mighty F(not A)-22, Hezbollah wouldn't have attacked?
Interesting how you changed your logic in the middle of your post...
The whole idea of 4GW is to counter "the latest and greatest" technology. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters in the environment the Israelis have been fighting since '82 is boots on the ground. Saying that bombs on target didn't solve much only proves that air power alone is no solution.
The question the Israelis need to ask themselves is the same as us... if we're going to invest in air power, what is going to help us in the type of war we've been least successful in? The Raptor ain't it...
Alot of the pictures the Chinese have put out of the "F-10" have actually been photoshopped Lavis and Eurofighters.
So if Israel had the mighty F(not A)-22, Hezbollah wouldn't have attacked?
Interesting how you changed your logic in the middle of your post...
The whole idea of 4GW is to counter "the latest and greatest" technology. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters in the environment the Israelis have been fighting since '82 is boots on the ground. Saying that bombs on target didn't solve much only proves that air power alone is no solution.
The question the Israelis need to ask themselves is the same as us... if we're going to invest in air power, what is going to help us in the type of war we've been least successful in? The Raptor ain't it...
I did fall victim to argument drift but I was attempting to answer Lawmans statement that the Israelis wont be offered the Raptor. WE could probably have a whole day to discuss the lessons learned from the Israeli offensive or the impact of a massive Chinese modernization program (how many Ipods get you on J-10?) But I need another beer
thull
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how do you know this i'm curious..
Eh?!
I've seen plenty of pictures of the F-10, and they ain't photoshopped Eurofighters or Lavis.
Okay site: http://www.milavia.net/aircraft/j-10/j-10.htm
Yeah, but do they work? And do they know how to use them?
Skid beat me to it. I'm not pushing this issue any further than saying... be concerned.
These are from GlobalSecurity.org
Founds lots of photoshopped pictures when we were preparing a brief on the chinese military for OCS. Not saying that there are no pics of the J/F-10 out there.
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I was gonna say. What does the IAF need a state of the art jet for? They've been wiping the floor with their A/A adversaries for quite a while now. It's hard to argue that they need Raptor in order to survive.
Brett
Devil's advocate, but they could use the stealth and range if they were to say go to downtown Tehran. Still, the F-22's overkill for that purpose.
pdx
HSM Pilot
I remember landing in at Dalian airport in China (DLC) and seeing at least 40 older MiGs (mostly -23s) tied down parallel to the taxiways. In the 3 months I was there, I saw quite a few of them fly.
While these might not seem like a big threat, it means they have plenty of pilots out there training in high performance fighter craft. Its not like they would be taking Cessna pilots and training them to fly the J-10 or similar.
On my way out, I also saw a shiney grey Sukhoi-30 wearing a red star parked about 100' from the passenger terminal.
By the way, none of this is anything secret. These flights were made in plain sight from civilian airports, and I was a civilian at the time I saw all of this (2001).
I'd say more like underkill. If they're hanging a bunch of ordnance on the thing in an attack role, stealth goes out the window. Their F-16I that can perform that same mission.
Brett