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RobLyman

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It was a joke. But one I've made myself that tends to go over peoples heads "nowadays" (ie 3-6 months ago).
I actually interacted with him. If you can call being pointed at from across the ship's wardroom table as he said, "And you guys in the funny green suits..." interaction. LOL He was just a CCDG commander at the time and our ship was brand new out of the shipyards in Maine. As was our squadron...still in the beat up transient hangar across from what used to be the McDonalds at Mayport. Not a great visitor to have aboard when you are doing WOWU and FLEETEX all at the same time with a brand new ship and brand new squadron/DET.

That underway period could be the basis for a whole new thread...or, to keep it on topic, possibly a Naval Aviation movie. Blend together Hunt for Red October, Caine Mutiny, McHales Navy and Dead Pool for comedy relief. Ever seen an exercise ASROC tumble through the air after premature booster separation, only to fall 1500 yds form the ship, and activate and reacquire the ship multiple times? Meanwhile OOD steams along wistfully, with an O7 quizzing him on topics like layer depth? The scene ends with the O7 ripping the LT bars off the OOD's collar and rushing down to combat. Next scene begins with yours truly walking into the wardroom after our flight with every seat but two taken. Said LT elects to stand in the corner instead, but is forced by DET OIC to sit in one of the two empty seats at the table while he stands in the corner. "Attention on deck!" O7 enters wardroom and takes his seat directly across from yours truly. Like the wardroom scene in Caine Mutiny, O7 fires away at entire wardroom, although deservingly so.

OK, maybe there isn't enough material for a whole movie, but maybe an SNL skit?

Oh, the reason we were yelled at was because we took off 10 minutes late. "Why were we late?" you might ask. Because DET OIC shut off APU instead of doing hydraulic leak check. Bye bye AC power.
 

Gatordev

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There was a Mid a year or two ahead of me at NROTC whose family was friends with 'ol Mike and there was a picture of her next to him while he was CNO. Obviously made it a bit awkward around the place after the news broke.

Oh, the reason we were yelled at was because we took off 10 minutes late. "Why were we late?" you might ask. Because DET OIC shut off APU instead of doing hydraulic leak check. Bye bye AC power.

Now I know this is only a sea story and not reality. The HYD LEAK Test requires both GENS to be running. Stolen Valor!


(kidding...again)
 

ATIS

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Are you talking about the Greer from the new Amazon show? If so, he's a break from canon.

The new Amazon show is FOD. My wife and I got about a 1/3 through ep#3....and I just threw my hands up in the air and shouted "I'm out". She was eye-rolling because the plot was so predictable (so was I, but I was also just besides myself on the technical and other aspects of the show).

ATIS
 

RobLyman

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There was a Mid a year or two ahead of me at NROTC whose family was friends with 'ol Mike and there was a picture of her next to him while he was CNO. Obviously made it a bit awkward around the place after the news broke.



Now I know this is only a sea story and not reality. The HYD LEAK Test requires both GENS to be running. Stolen Valor!


(kidding...again)
Hmmm..both generators? Really?

LOL. HYD LEAK is done at idle. Generators come on around 97% Nr on the ground (WOW).

LOL It's all good! :D I just did an MTP annual eval on someone last Friday. It's just not fair arguing systems with someone who evaluates this shit every week, almost every day. Not that I can't be wrong, but...not in this case. I'll take lights that come on/go out during engine runup for $500, Alex.

If it makes you feel better, it occurred during the same underway period that I did one of my worst f$%^ ups in aviation. We flew down the beach line of an island in the Caribbean enroute to Roosevelt Roads on a medevac when we noticed puffs of smoke on the beach. My dumb ass did not verify our EXACT location (pre GPS) and took combat's word for where we were. That beach was the north coast of Vieques and the puffs of smoke were shells arching over the island from a ship on the south side of the island. We were asked to call the tower when we got to Puerto Rico. I think our only saving grace was 1) We survived and 2) We were doing a medevac.
 
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Gatordev

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Hmmm..both generators? Really?

LOL. HYD LEAK is done at idle. Generators come on around 97% Nr on the ground (WOW).

LOL It's all good! :D I just did an MTP annual eval on someone last Friday. It's just not fair arguing systems with someone who evaluates this shit every week, almost every day. Not that I can't be wrong, but...not in this case. I'll take lights that come on/go out during engine runup for $500, Alex.

If it makes you feel better, it occurred during the same underway period that I did one of my worst f$%^ ups in aviation. We flew down the beach line of an island in the Caribbean enroute to Roosevelt Roads on a medevac when we noticed puffs of smoke on the beach. My dumb ass did not verify our EXACT location (pre GPS) and took combat's word for where we were. That beach was the north coast of Vieques and the puffs of smoke were shells arching over the island from a ship on the south side of the island. We were asked to call the tower when we got to Puerto Rico. I think our only saving grace was 1) We survived and 2) We were doing a medevac.

I really was just joking around and I fear the internet may have interfered with my delivery. Hopefully you understand I had no ill intent towards you and I enjoy reading your posts since you have both the Navy and Army perspective.

However... From the -60B NFM (whatever version I still had on my hard drive from a couple of years ago):

ALERT CONDITION (which is the equivalent of what you used to launch off the boat back then...emphasis mine):

...
5. ENG POWER CONT levers — FLY.
6. Fuel selectors — DIR.
7. BACKUP HYD PMP — AUTO.
8. Torques — Matched within 5 percent.
9. Engines — 100 percent Np/Nr.
10. SAC POWER — OFF.
11. NO. 1 and NO. 2 GENERATORS — ON.
12. APU GENERATOR — ON.
13. External power — OFF.
*14. Engine overspeed system and autoignition — Check.
*15. Hydraulic leak system — Check.
...

As you can see, the Gens would be up at you'd be at 100% Nr. Same goes for both the No-Rotor Brake Start and the Rotor Brake Start procedures (for land starts) for the Bravo (and Romeo).

I will concede that you are correct, and you could do it from shore power (or APU power), but I never was taught to do it while at idle in the Seahawk, and in the Bravo, Nr was either at 0% or 100%, no idle, when on the boat. Since I'm not NATOPS qual'ed in either anymore, it's moot, but I promise my joke was at least based in reality.

As for being in the wrong place...I feel your pain. Such is life living in a 512 nm world. It was like real life Pac Man.
 

RobLyman

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I really was just joking around and I fear the internet may have interfered with my delivery. Hopefully you understand I had no ill intent towards you and I enjoy reading your posts since you have both the Navy and Army perspective.

However... From the -60B NFM (whatever version I still had on my hard drive from a couple of years ago):

ALERT CONDITION (which is the equivalent of what you used to launch off the boat back then...emphasis mine):



As you can see, the Gens would be up at you'd be at 100% Nr. Same goes for both the No-Rotor Brake Start and the Rotor Brake Start procedures (for land starts) for the Bravo (and Romeo).

I will concede that you are correct, and you could do it from shore power (or APU power), but I never was taught to do it while at idle in the Seahawk, and in the Bravo, Nr was either at 0% or 100%, no idle, when on the boat. Since I'm not NATOPS qual'ed in either anymore, it's moot, but I promise my joke was at least based in reality.

As for being in the wrong place...I feel your pain. Such is life living in a 512 nm world. It was like real life Pac Man.

Well, it has been about 28+ years since the incident (1988-89 ish), and 22 years since my last runup in the Seahawk. 60R time in sim was with rotors already turning. In the 60 A/L/M we do the HYD LEAK check at idle. I guess I forgot about the differences.

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Since it was both of our first times ever doing the alert checklist (EVER), its possible it was more than just a wrong switch. Writing this, I remember some other issues like a bad ground power cable. Besides, we're talking fodder for a movie. Since when are movies ever accurate portrayals of real life, except of course the women's panties over the head scene in Firebirds!
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My reply was also meant in jest, mostly because you had already said you had difficulty with limits (like we all do). Yeah, humor can be hard to convey over the interwebs.

You want to see a real military masterpiece, watch this...and try not to lose your cookies.
 
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