The important difference is the 6 Jan folks tried to attack the capitol in order to overthrow the peaceful transfer of power following a free and fair election.
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CJCS responds to Rep. Gaetz
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Yeah, yeah, blah, blah…
By definition they are either both insurrections or both riots. To say anything else is hypocrisy and unequally treatment. Particularly hypocritical as the left claims their insurrectionalist attacks on government agencies, government institutions, laws, federal court houses, etc. (which all fit the definition of insurrection) were to force a change in governments and laws for what they claim would result in equal treatment.
But that just follows the theme of revenge for the victims that CRT and lefties all want.
Oh yeah, I almost forgot….
There hasn’t been a single person charged with insurrection or attempting to overthrow the government. Obviously the prosecutors know what is what.
When are the 2020 rioters going to be treated equally like they demand and be prosecuted for their crimes?
There hasn’t been a single person charged with insurrection or attempting to overthrow the government. Obviously the prosecutors know what is what.
When are the 2020 rioters going to be treated equally like they demand and be prosecuted for their crimes?
They directly attacked the certifying of the election, with the stated, recorded goal of "getting" the members of congress. And did so at the incitement of the losing, outgoing POTUS.
No comparison.
5Ys this. See where it takes you.
And Seattle rioters took over a large area of the city and declared it a free nation. That is text book insurrection.
There was also a federal court house under siege, kept from operating and continually damaged. A police station set on fire and another one occupied for a month or so. Again, alll classic insurrection.
Keep thinking your libtard TDS thoughts. Especially since Trump told them to protest, not riot.
SELRES_AMDO
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Do you think it is professional to be in a senior leadership position and question the Navy's promotion system in a mentoring setting?
Do you think it is ok to sit there and allude to the minority and female Officers in your command that some (most?) are there because the Navy allows unqualified people to get promoted for diversity?
All the XO did was make it appear that if you were different from the majority then you were starting off with a target on your back.
That's no different than the dumbasses who took over the wildlife refuge in Oregon. Shoot them all, says me.
But the 6 January folks attacked the heart of our constitutional process, which is free and fair elections followed by the peaceful transfer of power. Neither the folks in Seattle nor the ones in Oregon did that.
Nobody is endorsing what happened or saying the claims of fraud were or were not legitimate. Simply that what happened had nothing to do with skin color. Dont get it twisted. It was also a direct result of leftist media normalizing rioting for over a year. But "white rage" it was not. That's an intentionally dishonest miscategorization of cause based upon an incidental attribute (skin color) of Trump's base with the intent of racializing the issue in order to deligitimize an entire group of people. Their concerns may or may not have been legitimate but that's of no concern. Their concerns should have still been addressed by the people in leadership with transparency in order to maintain the faith in the Democratic process rather than the obfuscation and legal objections that they got instead. Taking people to court to stop recounts doesn't exactly inspire a lot of Faith.
I'm not questioning the process. I'm saying the process was improved. I'm also not "alluding" that "most" are there for that reason. But what I AM saying is that it absolutely happens and that I've sat in the room while someone that was unqualified was chosen based upon their gender rather than ACTC quals, hours, or fitreps. I'm also NOT making any comment about or defense for your XO's comments. But it does happen and to think otherwise, especially in this in this political climate, is incredibly naive.
That said, the majority of females and minorities that I've worked with have been phenomenal officers. There is no intent in my post to generalize but simply to say that it DOES happen. It's impossible to enforce the kinds of diversity quotas that SECDEF has talked about without eventually having to choose one person over another because of their skin color or genitals. You can dislike that all you want but that's the side effect of enforcing the kind of mindset that SECDEF and the leftists have upon the military. They only fair way to prevent that is too sanitize the board of gender and skin color references. So yes, I think it's a good and fair policy.
Should we have opened fire upon the leftist protestors that were trying to break down the doors to stop Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings? Should the BLM and ATF guys have gotten into a shootout with the Bundy ranchers who were later proven correct in court following an armed stand-down with the Federal government? I don't think you've thought about this "shoot them all" policy very much.
Also, our "constitutional process" is just fine and carried on smartly a few hours later. The judicial branch is also a "constitutional process" but I don't see too many BLM/Antifa rioters getting thrown into solitary confinement for months on end for trying to burn down federal courthouses...
Did they get in? Did security have to rush the Supremes into hiding while calls were made to the Pentagon for backup? I missed that.
But you're right, I am speaking hyperbolic about shooting them all. Just letting you know I treat the Bundy folks and the lefties similarly...until they enter the Capitol to interfere with the certification of the election after being directly incited by the losing POTUS. Who said he was going to be there with them.
Gaetz's rhetorical intent doesn't really matter. My comment was more in reference to misleading nature of how that "clip" went down.
Anecdotal examples of stupid or racist people being involved in the riot has no effect on the overarching cause of the riot which was based upon the fact that people felt as if their votes were being manipulated or miscounted. Milley, however, took full advantage of the situation to miscategorize and racialize the cause in order to fabricate a defense for himself while Gaetz was unable to respond. Probably a smart way for him to play the game to be honest but not exactly representative of a lot of intellectual integrity IMO. But I guess that goes along with him trying to keep his job in the current political climate.
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SELRES_AMDO
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You're right. I don't support quotas or any of those types of programs. I know it happens and don't think otherwise.
I just didn't appreciate an O-5 essentially telling us that if you were different then you're a diversity hire and don't really deserve to be there. The point of my original post is minority Officers are often judged to be unqualified before anyone knows anything about them. Just look at all the posts in this thread where other Officers tell their peers that they're only there because they're a minority. It is incredibly insulting and it is a very prevalent opinion among the Wardroom in my experience.
I'm willing to hazard a guess that if folks are stupid enough to believe that storming the Capitol would actually result in something other than them facing federal charges then there might be a good chance they could be stupid enough to be racist too. Unfortunately there are plenty of pictures to show that I am right since there was a disturbingly high number of racist symbols displayed by morons, idiots and assholes who stormed the Capitol that belies your assertion.