COVID-19

[SlickAg]

So all those people in the hospitals on ventilators don’t have Covid?

People also get hospitalized for the flu each year.
Please tell me the last time you saw a story with national media coverage about a hospital overflowing and then having to ration ventilators. If it were this problem sweeping America, then how come we’re not all hearing about it and you’re the only one asking the question? But it sure is a catchy way for people to clutch their pearls and talk about how AWFUL America’s response has been! If you’re so in love with European and oceanic country’s responses you should seriously move there. You and your family will be much safer from the next media-influenced and politically-driven frenzy event.

Remember when covid first happened (you know, 332 days ago when it was “two weeks to flatten the curve) and they were inducing patients into comas and intubating them because the health care workers were so afraid of getting coughed on? Yeah, me too. The preemptive ventilation contributed to their untimely demise.

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[taxi1]

Just like most of Europe. Just like you can’t tell restrictive states from open states.

You’re missing the point, which is you want to praise the wonderful steps the UK took but they didn’t help.

What us and the U.K. have proved is that if you accept a high prevalence of virus in the community, you’ll be stuck with endless lockdowns and restrictions. You’ll also end up with mutant viruses that make it worse.

What the winning countries have proven is that by beating it down to the point that contact tracing works and using NPIs you can live in an open society with minimal impacts.

Why not learn from the winners?

 

[taxi1]

Please tell me the last time you saw a story with national media coverage about a hospital overflowing and then having to ration ventilators.

Lots of stories about hospitals overflowing. You been in a cave?

The preemptive ventilation contributed to their untimely demise.

You’re smart enough to google. What percentage of Covid patients that are in ICUs right now are on ventilators?

 

[taxi1]

People also get hospitalized for the flu each year.

Not this year. It turns out NPIs like masks and distancing work.

 

[SlickAg]

Not this year. It turns out NPIs like masks and distancing work.

Just not against covid, right? Otherwise ICUs wouldn’t be getting overwhelmed with patients they’re putting on ventilators?

 

[SlickAg]

Lots of stories about hospitals overflowing. You been in a cave?


You’re smart enough to google. What percentage of Covid patients that are in ICUs right now are on ventilators?

I asked you the last time there was widespread national media coverage of ICUs overrun with ventilator patients. You know, like this spring when the major networks used photos from Italy as the backdrop for their stories?

You want to argue it, you provide the proof.

 

[SlickAg]

What us and the U.K. have proved is that if you accept a high prevalence of virus in the community, you’ll be stuck with endless lockdowns and restrictions. You’ll also end up with mutant viruses that make it worse.

What the winning countries have proven is that by beating it down to the point that contact tracing works and using NPIs you can live in an open society with minimal impacts.

Why not learn from the winners?

You should definitely move to a winning country. They’ll love you over there. America is a disaster. It’s time for you to get out while you can.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

What us and the U.K. have proved is that if you accept a high prevalence of virus in the community, you’ll be stuck with endless lockdowns and restrictions. You’ll also end up with mutant viruses that make it worse.

What the winning countries have proven is that by beating it down to the point that contact tracing works and using NPIs you can live in an open society with minimal impacts.

Why not learn from the winners?

Wrong. What it has proven is that once the virus is endemic half assed “lockdowns” are pointless. This is clear based on comparing us to the UK or states to states. It’s here, and it will be for a long time.

 

[taxi1]

Just not against covid, right? Otherwise ICUs wouldn’t be getting overwhelmed with patients they’re putting on ventilators?

Covid is more contagious than the flu. You know this, right? Or don’t you?

We really are moving to a new pandemic now, based on the new variants. They are more infectious compared to the original Covid, as Covid is to the flu. What would have taken a month for cases to double, will now take a week. NPIs that we’re good enough before will be insufficient. This evolution directly stems from the half-assed policy of living with the virus instead of crushing it.

You like to read medical articles. Here’s one that talks about potential for future increases in infectiousness possible as we let the virus simmer and stew in our population instead of driving it to zero. Bottom line is this virus has the potential to became way more contagious then even the new variants.

SARS-CoV-2 RBD in vitro evolution follows contagious mutation spread, yet generates an able infection inhibitor

SARS-CoV-2 is continually evolving, with more contagious mutations spreading rapidly. Using in vitro evolution to affinity maturate the receptor-binding domain (RBD) of the spike protein towards ACE2 resulted in the more contagious mutations, S477N, E484K, and N501Y, to be among the first...

doi.org

SARS-CoV-2 is constantly evolving, with more contagious mutations spreading rapidly. Using in vitro evolution to affinity maturate the receptor-binding domain (RBD) of the spike protein towards ACE2, resulted in the more contagious mutations, S477N, E484K, and N501Y to be among the first selected. This includes the British and South-African variants. Plotting the binding affinity to ACE2 of all RBD mutations against their incidence in the population shows a strong correlation between the two. Further in vitro evolution enhancing binding by 600-fold provides guidelines towards potentially new evolving mutations with even higher infectivity.

 

[taxi1]

Wrong. What it has proven is that once the virus is endemic half assed “lockdowns” are pointless. This is clear based on comparing us to the UK or states to states. It’s here, and it will be for a long time.

The path to doing it isn’t even that complicated.

It’s disappointing to see so many damn quitters in our country.

 

[Hair Warrior]

Covid is more contagious than the flu. You know this, right? Or don’t you?

Is it? What’s the data?

Anecdotally: Every winter I’ve caught a flu from my kids through daycare. Haven’t caught COVID from them yet, nor have my kids caught COVID - and some of the kids in the daycare class have doctors and police as parents. I have friends who caught COVID but haven’t transmitted it to others with whom they interacted closely.

I know COVID is more deadly that the flu, which is still somewhat deadly each year.

 

[scoolbubba]

The path to doing it isn’t even that complicated.

It’s disappointing to see so many damn quitters in our country.

We've just gotta be willing to weld people in their apartments and disappear the ones who ask any questions.

You first.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

The path to doing it isn’t even that complicated.

It’s disappointing to see so many damn quitters in our country.

Well you should let someone know about your simple plan. Tell Europe too, because they can’t seem to figure it out either. Make sure to let them know your command experience.

 

[SlickAg]

Covid is more contagious than the flu. You know this, right? Or don’t you?

We really are moving to a new pandemic now, based on the new variants. They are more infectious compared to the original Covid, as Covid is to the flu. What would have taken a month for cases to double, will now take a week. NPIs that we’re good enough before will be insufficient. This evolution directly stems from the half-assed policy of living with the virus instead of crushing it.

You like to read medical articles. Here’s one that talks about potential for future increases in infectiousness possible as we let the virus simmer and stew in our population instead of driving it to zero. Bottom line is this virus has the potential to became way more contagious then even the new variants.

SARS-CoV-2 RBD in vitro evolution follows contagious mutation spread, yet generates an able infection inhibitor

SARS-CoV-2 is continually evolving, with more contagious mutations spreading rapidly. Using in vitro evolution to affinity maturate the receptor-binding domain (RBD) of the spike protein towards ACE2 resulted in the more contagious mutations, S477N, E484K, and N501Y, to be among the first...

doi.org

SARS-CoV-2 is constantly evolving, with more contagious mutations spreading rapidly. Using in vitro evolution to affinity maturate the receptor-binding domain (RBD) of the spike protein towards ACE2, resulted in the more contagious mutations, S477N, E484K, and N501Y to be among the first selected. This includes the British and South-African variants. Plotting the binding affinity to ACE2 of all RBD mutations against their incidence in the population shows a strong correlation between the two. Further in vitro evolution enhancing binding by 600-fold provides guidelines towards potentially new evolving mutations with even higher infectivity.

So that’s just a fancy way of saying “wait two more weeks!!!!!”?

 

[SlickAg]

Is it? What’s the data?

Anecdotally: Every winter I’ve caught a flu from my kids through daycare. Haven’t caught COVID from them yet, nor have my kids caught COVID - and some of the kids in the daycare class have doctors and police as parents. I have friends who caught COVID but haven’t transmitted it to others with whom they interacted closely.

I know COVID is more deadly that the flu, which is still somewhat deadly each year.

Your unwillingness to understand basic facts is beginning to concern me and make me question your fitness for naval reserve duties.

Did you also write this baseless article you conspiracy theorist?

CLAIM: Analysis Proves COVID is Lab-Made Virus - The National Pulse

A new COVID-19 study concludes there is a “99.8% probability SARS-CoV-2 came from a laboratory.”The 193-page paper published January 29th is titled “A Bayesian analysis concludes beyond a reasonable doubt that SARS-CoV-2 is not a natural zoonosis but instead is laboratory derived.”“The purpose...

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