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SlickAg

Registered User
pilot
Mandates are just words. Behavior is what matters.

The virus is transmitted via respiration. That is the transmission path, pretty much period. It is actually not that hard to interrupt that path. Ventilation, distancing, and masks (which are a form of distancing) are key.

If the virus is spreading in a community, it is because people aren’t doing these things. End of story. It really is that simple.


Here’s your unequivocal extrapolation. I work in a lab with over 1000 people operating throughout the pandemic, and we are living proof that masks, distancing, and ventilation works. We have had zero cases of transmission at the workplace. None. Spring, Fall, and Winter at Superspreader U. Zero transmission at work.

The policies work, if people follow them. Behavior is what matters. More people will follow them if fewer people like you undermine them.
And I’m sure you all love telling people about how great you are.


 
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Treetop Flyer

Well-Known Member
pilot
Round and round we go. In the last page of this thread he made the same Germany argument he made earlier in this thread, as though they actually defeated the virus. Now he’s using his anecdotal experience as some kind of scientific fact even though he already got dismantled saying the same thing just a week ago.

The good news is that scaryvirus is almost over. The bad news is taxi1 will be letting us know he had the master plan to defeat it for a long time to come.
 

SlickAg

Registered User
pilot
Round and round we go. In the last page of this thread he made the same Germany argument he made earlier in this thread, as though they actually defeated the virus. Now he’s using his anecdotal experience as some kind of scientific fact even though he already got dismantled saying the same thing just a week ago.

The good news is that scaryvirus is almost over. The bad news is taxi1 will be letting us know he had the master plan to defeat it for a long time to come.
I’m afraid they’re going to latch onto the mutations next and claim that until we know the vaccine protects against them too that we have to keep locking down.


 

Treetop Flyer

Well-Known Member
pilot
Yeah I’ve seen some alarmists trying to spread fear about the different strains. It is frustrating to see numerous headlines about “disappointing” news about the J&J vaccine. There’s this:


Which is honestly still pretty good news on its own but is somehow twisted into fear and “disappointing” news.

Then there’s this, which makes it seem like a home run. Especially factoring in that it’s a single dose and doesn’t have difficult storage requirements to hamper distribution.


If her information is correct, get this thing produced and get us back to normal before summer.
 

SlickAg

Registered User
pilot
So on January 26th, Dr. Fauci is quoted in an article as saying this:

““If you have a physical covering with one layer, you put another layer on, it just makes common sense that it likely would be more effective,” said Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. “And that’s the reason why you see people either double masking or doing a version of an N95.”

N95 masks are expensive, and the CDC recommends they be reserved for health care workers, but health experts say double masking is easy and something of a no-brainer.”


On January 28th, he admits there’s no data behind his claim that double masks work. And people on here wonder why some of us have trouble taking him seriously?


 

SlickAg

Registered User
pilot
Long but interesting read written by someone who refers to President Trump as “the Mad King”.

“In July, Fauci was asked whether he regretted originally advising against masks. He replied, astonishingly, “I don’t regret anything I said then because in the context of the time in which I said it, it was correct… When it became clear that the infection could be spread by asymptomatic carriers who don’t know they’re infected, that made it very clear that we had to strongly recommend masks.” But that wasn’t true; Fauci knew about asymptomatic carriers at least three months before the CDC changed its guidelines. This was simple face-saving, an attempt to rewrite the record in his favor. Apparently, it worked.”

“Asked what accounts for his celebrity during the pandemic, Fauci replied, “I believe, in fact I’m certain, that the country, in a very stressful time, needed a symbol of someone who tells the truth, which I do”...

We now know that Fauci — in addition to his subterfuge about masks and asymptomatic transmission — lied to the public about herd immunity, gradually raising his estimate of the percent of the population that needs to be inoculated to defeat the virus. As The New York Times reported in December, “Dr. Fauci acknowledged that he had slowly but deliberately been moving the goal posts. He is doing so, he said, partly based on new science, and partly on his gut feeling that the country is finally ready to hear what he really thinks.” This admission betrays his carefully cultivated image. Clearly, Fauci is willing to indulge in pious fictions when he decides they’re necessary. In truth, the cult of Fauci is based on a character; a performance that has served him, and sometimes the public, very well.”

 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/as-california-virus-cases-fall-more-people-than-ever-dying

^ Here is another wonderful piece of misinformation....

"An average of 544 people died every day in the last week, and on Saturday the state reached the grim milestone of 40,000 deaths overall, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

In barely a year since the virus was first detected in the state, 1 in 1,000 Californians have died from it."

Wat? I mean you don't even need to understand statistics to understand that is an absurd statement. Where did these journalists go to school?
 

SlickAg

Registered User
pilot
“There have been many randomized controlled trials (RCT) and meta-analysis of previous studies that suggest that masks do not work to prevent influenza- like illnesses, or respiratory illness transmitted by droplets and aerosol particles – like Covid. This knowledge was the basis for the WHO and CDC recommending against the public wearing masks in the spring of 2020. It was repeated by authorities and experts at every level.

Dr. Jerome Adams, the Surgeon General tweeted, “Seriously people – STOP BUYING MASKS! They are NOT effective in preventing the general public from catching Coronavirus”

Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 minutes, “There’s no reason to be walking around with a mask”.
In April, the New England Journal of Medicine wrote: “we know that wearing a mask outside of health care facilities offers little, if any protection from infection”.

What changed? Well, it wasn’t the science.”

 

Treetop Flyer

Well-Known Member
pilot
https://komonews.com/news/coronavirus/as-california-virus-cases-fall-more-people-than-ever-dying

^ Here is another wonderful piece of misinformation....

"An average of 544 people died every day in the last week, and on Saturday the state reached the grim milestone of 40,000 deaths overall, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University.

In barely a year since the virus was first detected in the state, 1 in 1,000 Californians have died from it."

Wat? I mean you don't even need to understand statistics to understand that is an absurd statement. Where did these journalists go to school?
Cases are plummeting. How can we make good news sound scary?
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
Cases are plummeting. How can we make good news sound scary?

I stopped looking at COVID related news almost immediately, but I do remember the early days when they shamelessly linked stories about deaths of younger adults to their COVID news feed in a clear effort to scare people not in the high risk groups. You either had to actually read the article to figure out that the death was not at all COVID related, or they just outright lied and then had to retract their statements. That is when they lost me. Now it is just amusing to watch them grasp for straws to keep the news story going, while vaccines are being put into arms and even Fauci himself put the end in sight.
 

Hair Warrior

Well-Known Member
Contributor
I stopped looking at COVID related news almost immediately, but I do remember the early days when they shamelessly linked stories about deaths of younger adults to their COVID news feed in a clear effort to scare people not in the high risk groups. You either had to actually read the article to figure out that the death was not at all COVID related, or they just outright lied and then had to retract their statements. That is when they lost me. Now it is just amusing to watch them grasp for straws to keep the news story going, while vaccines are being put into arms and even Fauci himself put the end in sight.
The news outlets have no problem broadcasting deaths of named people attributed to COVID - but they willfully leave out other, crucial health related details because of “health privacy.”

News flash: it’s all private health info, even the COVID part. And yes it very likely matters (physiologically) if they have COVID alongside an underlying health condition, such as HIV/AIDS, cancer, parkinsons, diabetes, TB, Hep, syphillis, etc.
 

exNavyOffRec

Well-Known Member
So on January 26th, Dr. Fauci is quoted in an article as saying this:

““If you have a physical covering with one layer, you put another layer on, it just makes common sense that it likely would be more effective,” said Fauci, the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. “And that’s the reason why you see people either double masking or doing a version of an N95.”

N95 masks are expensive, and the CDC recommends they be reserved for health care workers, but health experts say double masking is easy and something of a no-brainer.”


On January 28th, he admits there’s no data behind his claim that double masks work. And people on here wonder why some of us have trouble taking him seriously?



Maybe we just need to have fun with this mask thing, get this from Amazon and put a cloth insert inside or just put a disposal mask over the mouth area, then we can all look and sound cool lol

 

Hair Warrior

Well-Known Member
Contributor
“I’m President John Henry Eden, and we all need to be wearing our masks.”
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SlickAg

Registered User
pilot
Emmy makes total sense to me now. Excellence in acting. Looking back at the praise and adulation thrown his way...wow. Hoodwinked us.

“When I say ‘experts’ in air quotes, it sounds like I’m saying I don’t really trust the experts,” Gov. Andrew Cuomo said of pandemic policies. “Because I don’t.”


 
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