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Crossing the finish line... running, walking or crawling... (Reserve Retirement Process)
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Zero accountability since then.
@subreservist @AllAmerican75 Sorry for the confusion. I meant October 2009, commissioned January 2010 onto active duty. I'll reach out to PERS and ask, they seem to be decent in responding.
Follow up. Spoke to MNCC Helpdesk (very helpful!). They said starting active duty is should start the clock on anniversary year, so it appears my record is in error. Since I'm SELRES, I need to go through the CPPA at the NRC. It should just be submitting a ticket with the documentation (DD214 from OCS in my case) to get it corrected. Will report back!
Not necessarily before you retire but within a few months of retiring I recommend figuring out a life insurance plan for yourself and dependents, if you have them. VGLI is always an option for you but the costs increase a bit as you get older. There are options instead of VGLI to including Navy Mutual, with who you can now get coverage to replace your SGLI and Family SGLI (FSGLI) without a physical within 120 days of separation/retirement. I think this a better option than the standard FSGLI conversion options. There are others out there to include American Armed Forces Mutual Aid Association (AAFMAA) that a few folks in my unit used and were happy with.
I recommend this partly because my wife wasn't able to qualify for life insurance other than converting her FSGLI and I had to dig a little bit to figure out our options. I asked around both the NOSC and my peers and none knew about the conversion option.
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Thanks for this! This is the type of insight/feedback I was hoping for...
My wife is only covered via FSGLI, so I do need to get her under something else...I've always had an additional policy with Navy Mutual, so probably will start there for her and check into other options also.
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For those that eventually get to the point of requesting retirement, I thought I'd add a few things on the process as I go.
There is also a reserve retirement class anyone can take https://www.mynavyhr.navy.mil/Caree...e-Retirements/Retirement-Transition-Outreach/
RRCS is what I did and it was REALLY good!
IRR members I believe apply via letter/email to PERS and SELRES, like myself, make the request via NSIPS.
The process is fairly straightforward once you find the "Request Retirement" link in Employee Self Services.
It will ask for separation address and if you desire a retirement ceremony or not.
My "forced" retirement is short-fused and there's really not enough time to do an official Navy retirement on the last DWE I have left and I have no intention of coming to drill after the fact when I'm no longer getting paid for it!
Still, I selected "yes" as I felt it would be easier to turn it down later, vice selecting "no" and trying to change it to "yes" later.
I also didn't want "no" to cost me from getting a flag/certificate!
Everyone is entitled to a flag by instruction and for SELRES you get it from the NOSC/NRC/NRA. For IRR, you get it from PERS.
After you submit the request in NSIPS, it goes to your Unit chain for chop. Best to give someone a call or text, because NSIPS doesn't send a notification that there is a request to be reviewed. Both my CO & XO had NEVER seen a retirement request before and my CO is an old salt! I had to walk CO through how to even find it.
Then it goes to NRA Separation Specialist and eventually to HR Director at PERS for final review/approval. There is a history tab on your request, so you can track where it is sitting and poke an email at the person if needed.
Once its approved, you will get "Retirement Orders' in the mail, which most likely will be received after your requested date. Supposedly, the orders will have the eligibility age you can request retired pay. If the age isn't right, you have to work with PERS to get it figured out.
Also important: some may try to pull drills forward to have that last bit of pay and points before sailing off. I was told you run the risk of getting recouped later for the pay and points, if you do. So, like in my case - July1 is my end date and I pull DWE for July through rest of FY (September) into June and drill them out - if caught, you have pay it back and the points get zapped away.
Not sure if I understand the logic of that. We retire into the "gray area" - so we're not FULLY retired. We can still be recalled in case of a major emergency and can still be paid for funeral honors (i.e. you're still paid for your time), so not sure why you can't still be paid for time for pulling the DWEs. But that's what I was told in the class!
There is also a reserve retirement class anyone can take https://www.mynavyhr.navy.mil/Caree...e-Retirements/Retirement-Transition-Outreach/
RRCS is what I did and it was REALLY good!
IRR members I believe apply via letter/email to PERS and SELRES, like myself, make the request via NSIPS.
The process is fairly straightforward once you find the "Request Retirement" link in Employee Self Services.
It will ask for separation address and if you desire a retirement ceremony or not.
My "forced" retirement is short-fused and there's really not enough time to do an official Navy retirement on the last DWE I have left and I have no intention of coming to drill after the fact when I'm no longer getting paid for it!
Still, I selected "yes" as I felt it would be easier to turn it down later, vice selecting "no" and trying to change it to "yes" later.
I also didn't want "no" to cost me from getting a flag/certificate!
Everyone is entitled to a flag by instruction and for SELRES you get it from the NOSC/NRC/NRA. For IRR, you get it from PERS.
After you submit the request in NSIPS, it goes to your Unit chain for chop. Best to give someone a call or text, because NSIPS doesn't send a notification that there is a request to be reviewed. Both my CO & XO had NEVER seen a retirement request before and my CO is an old salt! I had to walk CO through how to even find it.
Then it goes to NRA Separation Specialist and eventually to HR Director at PERS for final review/approval. There is a history tab on your request, so you can track where it is sitting and poke an email at the person if needed.
Once its approved, you will get "Retirement Orders' in the mail, which most likely will be received after your requested date. Supposedly, the orders will have the eligibility age you can request retired pay. If the age isn't right, you have to work with PERS to get it figured out.
Also important: some may try to pull drills forward to have that last bit of pay and points before sailing off. I was told you run the risk of getting recouped later for the pay and points, if you do. So, like in my case - July1 is my end date and I pull DWE for July through rest of FY (September) into June and drill them out - if caught, you have pay it back and the points get zapped away.
Not sure if I understand the logic of that. We retire into the "gray area" - so we're not FULLY retired. We can still be recalled in case of a major emergency and can still be paid for funeral honors (i.e. you're still paid for your time), so not sure why you can't still be paid for time for pulling the DWEs. But that's what I was told in the class!
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That is the million dollar question!
Turns out anyone with access to NSIPS has the ability to receive "Notifications" when logged in. However, you can't actually SEE them unless you take action to tell the system to display them.
In the upper right of the main page, once logged in, is something like "Customize Menu" or something like that. You check the "Notifications" block and hit save/apply and then, instantly, you see a list of notes right there on the front page, directly below all those options like Employee Self Service.
Why the default is to not display these notes is anyones guess!
The notes, if action is needed on something, will contain the info needed to find whatever you need to act on.
Otherwise, you're just taking a stab in the dark and clicking around different places until you find what it is. I'm not sure what method my Skipper used to find my request, but what I described would have been the easiest way.
I was actually surprised to see I had 2 dozen or so notes over the years. In some cases, I did receive a Navy email, but in some cases I didn't (like needing to update REDD/DA.
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As a NR CO, I got notifications about new Retirement Requests from my sailors, but it was always FYI only, as far as I could tell. No action required from me.
Mine just got marked "Approved" last week, 6+ months before my intended retirement date. Looking at the approval history, after I submitted it, it went to the NRC CCC shop for two signatures and then the NRC CO. Nobody in my reserve chain of command ever saw it, even though it asked for contact info for a unit contact and my reporting senior.
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It's possible your rank played into how your request was routed or just how the admin at your NRA setup your NSIPS routing. I'm guessing not all NRA do it the same - they can easily decide it can go straight from the mbr to the NRA. I'm also pretty sure if my request had been "sat" on for awhile, they have the ability to bypass.
For my request history, it showed it needed to go either XO/SEL first, them my Skipper, then NRA CCC, then NRA Admin Sup, before finally going to HR folks at PERS.
Considering mine was short-fused, the turnaround was pretty quick!
Interesting. My request went through my last CO for chop. He left comments (recommend approval, thanks for your service, blah blah etc). Maybe it depends on the type of command?
Retirement request in, sitting with NPC. Less than a year left to go. Only things I really have left are one more PFA, mandatory GMT in October, and maybe to show up to UITS at the start of the calendar year. I grinded out 27 correspondence points already for my last anniversary year and could request to stop drilling rather early, but am wondering if I should collect a few more points given our current NRC CO is letting our VTU remote muster as long as our requirements are current.
For those a few years over the line, any advice on things I should do as I complete the final lap? Do you regret not topping up non-pay points your last year?
For those a few years over the line, any advice on things I should do as I complete the final lap? Do you regret not topping up non-pay points your last year?
Take the point. It is always nice to have a buffer to cover some puny admin error from 18 years ago that costs you even a little.
Snake, you know this, but a reserve retirement is entirely points based. Pay grade/high 3 is great, but you need the points to make it matter. I dont think doing a bunch of them in the 11th hour is going to really move the needle. But i also wouldn’t not get the most points you can. That just should have been the mentality from the beginning. If I leave a year with less than 130 points, I know that i needlessly (mostly) left money on the table
Submitting my NSIPS retirement request this week… 
It’s a little different if you’re retiring from the VTU… I’m very much in a “press to 50” mindset. My last two years have been around 65 or so points per year. When you don’t fly, or even get $ on Navy time, the motivations change.
The way i see it, it’s one of a few income streams I plan to have in retirement anyway. Despite inflation, maybe it’ll be enough for me to take my wife out for a cheeseburger once a month or so in retirement. The $0.40/mo difference isn’t worth the headaches now.
It’s a little different if you’re retiring from the VTU… I’m very much in a “press to 50” mindset. My last two years have been around 65 or so points per year. When you don’t fly, or even get $ on Navy time, the motivations change.
The way i see it, it’s one of a few income streams I plan to have in retirement anyway. Despite inflation, maybe it’ll be enough for me to take my wife out for a cheeseburger once a month or so in retirement. The $0.40/mo difference isn’t worth the headaches now.
I don't understand all this technical talk about 'points' and what-nots you quitters keep talking about on here. 😁Submitting my NSIPS retirement request this week…
It’s a little different if you’re retiring from the VTU… I’m very much in a “press to 50” mindset. My last two years have been around 65 or so points per year. When you don’t fly, or even get $ on Navy time, the motivations change.
The way i see it, it’s one of a few income streams I plan to have in retirement anyway. Despite inflation, maybe it’ll be enough for me to take my wife out for a cheeseburger once a month or so in retirement. The $0.40/mo difference isn’t worth the headaches now.
Just kidding, congrats!
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