Had to check my facts first, VP-26 lost 2 P-3s during Operation MARKET TIME in Vietnam
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First flight of the P-8A Poseidon and all things related to transition
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Had to check my facts first, VP-26 lost 2 P-3s during Operation MARKET TIME in Vietnam
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Yeah, VPNAVY.COM lists 2 aircraft and crews lost; one in February and one in April. Both are listed as "Water Strike" with 12 deaths, but only one is listed as "combat action". That isn't the final word of course, but couldn't find any details regarding the second aircaft.
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Looks like the P-8 is gonna get "Poseidon" for it's nickname....
From the Seattle Times:
From the Seattle Times:
Official P-8 Name
They finally made it official:
01/09/2007
USA: Navy Names P-3 Replacement P-8A Poseidon
By Renee Hatcher, P-8A Poseidon Public Affairs, U.S. Navy
http://somd.com/news/headlines/2007/5136.shtml
PATUXENT RIVER, Md. - The Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) today announced that the P-8A multi-mission maritime aircraft has been assigned its popular name. It will now be known as P-8A Poseidon.
Historically, the names of Maritime Patrol and Reconnaissance aircraft have been taken from Greek mythology. The P-8A’s predecessors were the P-2 Neptune and P-3 Orion. Poseidon’s association with dominance of the seas, and protection for all that serve on it, unquestionably represent the capabilities the P-8A will bring to the Navy.
“As with everything we do, we solicited inputs from the end-user to determine the best name for the P-8A,” said Capt. Joe Rixey, NAVAIR’s Maritime Patrol and Reconnaissance Aircraft Program manager. “We are very excited to announce Poseidon as the identification for this essential weapon system that the warfighter will use to patrol and protect the open waters well into the 21st century.”
The P-8A Poseidon is the Navy’s replacement platform for the P-3C Orion, securing the Navy’s future in long-range patrol. The primary mission of the P-8A is to provide persistent anti-submarine warfare. In addition, the Poseidon will contribute to anti-surface warfare, and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance warfighting capabilities as defined in the Sea Shield and FORCEnet elements of the Navy’s Sea Power 21.
The program is currently in the detailed design phase of system design and development. Initial operating capability is scheduled for 2013 with full operational capability planned for 2019.
They finally made it official:
01/09/2007
USA: Navy Names P-3 Replacement P-8A Poseidon
By Renee Hatcher, P-8A Poseidon Public Affairs, U.S. Navy
http://somd.com/news/headlines/2007/5136.shtml
PATUXENT RIVER, Md. - The Naval Air Systems Command (NAVAIR) today announced that the P-8A multi-mission maritime aircraft has been assigned its popular name. It will now be known as P-8A Poseidon.
Historically, the names of Maritime Patrol and Reconnaissance aircraft have been taken from Greek mythology. The P-8A’s predecessors were the P-2 Neptune and P-3 Orion. Poseidon’s association with dominance of the seas, and protection for all that serve on it, unquestionably represent the capabilities the P-8A will bring to the Navy.
“As with everything we do, we solicited inputs from the end-user to determine the best name for the P-8A,” said Capt. Joe Rixey, NAVAIR’s Maritime Patrol and Reconnaissance Aircraft Program manager. “We are very excited to announce Poseidon as the identification for this essential weapon system that the warfighter will use to patrol and protect the open waters well into the 21st century.”
The P-8A Poseidon is the Navy’s replacement platform for the P-3C Orion, securing the Navy’s future in long-range patrol. The primary mission of the P-8A is to provide persistent anti-submarine warfare. In addition, the Poseidon will contribute to anti-surface warfare, and intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance warfighting capabilities as defined in the Sea Shield and FORCEnet elements of the Navy’s Sea Power 21.
The program is currently in the detailed design phase of system design and development. Initial operating capability is scheduled for 2013 with full operational capability planned for 2019.
Except Neptune was a Roman god, not Greek. Poseidon is the Greek equivalent of Neptune. I will give a journalist a break when they screw up some obscure technical detail. But a writer should know basic Greek and Roman mythology. Do they take even one course on the Classics these days?
I hate to stoop to wikipedia links, but this one is not too bad. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-cost_carrier
Low cost carriers are very successful and commonly operate B-737's. Years from now there will be a large market of experienced P-8 pilots rooming through the civilian world with plenty of time and a type rating in new age B-737's.
Low cost carriers are very successful and commonly operate B-737's. Years from now there will be a large market of experienced P-8 pilots rooming through the civilian world with plenty of time and a type rating in new age B-737's.
O.K. I guess I see the experience in type point, even though it really makes no difference when it comes to the hiring committees. It is actual bad for an airline to have a pilot group that is too homogeneous.
As far the the statement that low cost carriers are very successful, you are very wrong. Every airline that has stood up since deregulation, but maybe 2, has been a self proclaimed low cost airline. That is well over 25 airlines. How many are still around and successful? Depending on how you define successful, 3-4. Given those facts, I would not state that low cost airlines, as a group are successful.
But won't alot of pilot's view flying the P-8 as their ticket to the airlines? Whether they select it for that reason or not, eventually there will be alot of guys getting out with 737 experience. The market gets flooded with military 737 guys, and the airlines make out.
I would think this would be a real good thing for the enlisted maintainers. Navy pilots are always going to be at the top of the list for the airlines, but now instead of the e's having a tone of experience maintaining a plane that none of the major carriers use they will have experience on an airframe that almost ALL of the major carriers use. I'm interested to hear the opinions of the experienced guys on this one.
I would think this would be a real good thing for the enlisted maintainers. Navy pilots are always going to be at the top of the list for the airlines, but now instead of the e's having a tone of experience maintaining a plane that none of the major carriers use they will have experience on an airframe that almost ALL of the major carriers use. I'm interested to hear the opinions of the experienced guys on this one.
