HSV 2 sunk by Iranian supplied ASCM

[Uncle Fester]

Yemen is another front in the ongoing Islamic civil war. Or perhaps Islamic Cold War might be a better analogy - Iran and KSA fighting each other via Shi'a and Sunni clients and proxies and terror groups across the Muslim world. Our policy of trying to stay out of the various fronts while wanting to influence the players is largely incoherent because we don't seem to get how it's all connected behind the scenes.

What I don't get is why someone in Yemen is trying to drag the US into the war. Time is largely on the Houthis' side and they'd be better off bleeding the Saudis and Emiratis until they get fed up and leave, like they did to the Egyptians during the Yemeni civil war (Yemen is referred to by Egyptian historians as "the Egyptian Vietnam"). I don't see what they stand to gain by involving us directly.

 

[Hair Warrior]

@Uncle Fester
Are we not already involved in Yemen through our tacit/overt support to Saudi air operations?

 

[Uncle Fester]

@Uncle Fester
Are we not already involved in Yemen through our tacit/overt support to Saudi air operations?

No.

That's as much detail as we're doing on unclass.

 

[jmcquate]

What I don't get is why someone in Yemen is trying to drag the US into the war.

Because they're not scared of us.

 

[nittany03]

The US has interests in the free flow of commerce in and around the Red Sea. We'll respond to provocations involving our ships. That's about all that needs to be said in open source, so let's not start dickering over the details of what the USG is, isn't, or may be doing. If you think people aren't looking here to see what "US military people who would know" think, you're wrong.

 

[picklesuit]

The US has interests in the free flow of commerce in and around the Red Sea. We'll respond to provocations involving our ships. That's about all that needs to be said in open source, so let's not start dickering over the details of what the USG is, isn't, or may be doing. If you think people aren't looking here to see what "US military people who would know" think, you're wrong.

Fuckin' Jublov...

 

[Treetop Flyer]

No.

That's as much detail as we're doing on unclass.

"No" and we won't discuss it likely means "yeah but"

I posted that before but it's gone now, with no explanation

 

[Beans]

It's fun to win arguments and be the most knowledgeable person on the forum about issue X. But maybe we ought to be grown-ups and not do that this time.

 

[Flash]

Or, to GTFO. None of this helps the ceasefire we want to see in Iran and Saudi Arabia's proxy war. (Yes I realize X trillion in global shipping goes through that straight.)

It is spelled 'strait', important distinction for us Navy folk.

 

[HH-60H]

It is spelled 'strait', important distinction for us Navy folk.

Not anymore

 

[Flash]

Not anymore

Really?! Ugh, I blame Millennials....

 

[Gatordev]

Fuckin' Jublov...

I believe it's now pronounced "Austin-Powers."

 

[wink]

I know you understand the need for accurate language that everyone in the conversation agrees with the definition. If either person thinks a word means something different then we're not communicating effectively.

"US funding Iranian backed terrorists" and "Previsouly frozen Iranian funds released back to Iran are used to fund terrorists" have a lot of the same words but say two very different things (to me at least).

Except that I can't find those phrases used in any post here. You have made this into something that could be misunderstood. You can't criticize someone for something they didn't say.

 

[Brett327]

Come on, Wink. You can't seriously feign innocence that this isn't a rhetorical tactic to make it appear a certain way to those who don't understand the nuance here. Nobody believes that and you lose credulity when you imply otherwise.

 

[Pags]

Except that I can't find those phrases used in any post here. You have made this into something that could be misunderstood. You can't criticize someone for something they didn't say.

Those phrases weren't used by anyone here. I used quotes to highlight the hypothetical headlines I made up to illustrate the nuanced difference between the phrases. Sorry for the confusion.