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Hurricane IKE

picklesuit

Dirty Hinge
pilot
Contributor
Well...as of 0815 the NASCC EOC says no evacuation. They had a meeting at 0700 and the next is at 1100....so I guess the next update is at noon. I will try to shoot some good video/pix from NASCC if/when we stay.

I guess being on the backside of Ike and with landfall 200 miles north we should be okay.

Should be interesting to see all the guys who left here with the understanding that it would be a mando eva. and now it isn't (so far)
 

nvrg1vup

New Member
Well...as of 0815 the NASCC EOC says no evacuation. They had a meeting at 0700 and the next is at 1100....so I guess the next update is at noon. I will try to shoot some good video/pix from NASCC if/when we stay.

I guess being on the backside of Ike and with landfall 200 miles north we should be okay.

Should be interesting to see all the guys who left here with the understanding that it would be a mando eva. and now it isn't (so far)

I'm most likely going north. There ain't no party like a hurricane party because a hurricane party don't stop. Anyone know how the "backside" will affect power out on the Island and whether it is a good idea based on (having no electric/water) to leave. Any prior experience out there?
 

phrogpilot73

Well-Known Member
Does anyone know if multiple people can go in on a room using their per diem? As in, myself and 2 friends, get a room for 112x3 (336)? Or is it limited to 1 room/person? Given the lack of rooms this might be useful info.
As mentioned, you can do it - IF the hotel will break up the bill. Also, I think there's a rule that each person has to have their own bed.
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
I'm just pissed that we were told we WILL be mando-evacing at 0800 today, and to leave now if you can.

Looks like I am eating $400ish in travel expenses.

If they had told us EXPECT an evac at 0800 and be ready to go, I would have. But then the RV Park evacs at COR3 vice COR2, so I would have had to leave anyways.
 

SDNalgene

Blind. Continue...
pilot
YGTBSM.. CO said EVAC now if you can, just won't get $$ for tonights lodging.

If I have to eat $200+ worth of Diesel, and $140 for a campground for 4 days I'm gonna be pissed.

I understand your pain. The tone of that meeting was that evacuation was definite and imminent. The track really didn't shift very much from when they were saying it was definite. We are still likely to get heavy rain and wind, albeit not hurricane force wind. Not second guessing the decision at all, just pointing out that we are still gonna have really crappy weather and the smart money is still on not being here. Unfortunately that smart money is now my money, and not per diem money.

There are gonna be a ton of people who are gonna eat far more than $340 as a result of this change. From the top down there seemed to be a very clear message of "scatter inland, keep your cell phones on, save your receipts, and fill out your travel claim when we all report to NMM after Ike destroys K-Rock". Oh well. I would rather do minor griping about an unfunded 4 day weekend than have a hurricane thwack my house and the base. The rest of K-rock, well that can go....(in jest).

As an aside, the real question from that meeting is why did Master look like he just got sprayed down with a firehose when he walked in? You are one sweaty bastard sir.
 

MasterBates

Well-Known Member
I helped Frenchy and Jon-Boy board up their house, then I helped fix the slide on Crash's camper when it would not go in, then I had to clean a shit-pond when I went to dump my tanks and discovered that the lawnmower goons had cut another sewer line, and then I walked over to the meeting because my truck was already hooked up and ready to roll.

So yeah, I was drenched when I walked into the AOM.
 

a-6intruder

Richard Hardshaft
None
After reading several of these posts, I feel the need to provide some professional counseling to make sure some folks don't get the wrong idea about per diem.

I have had the sad duty to reprimand, and in more than one instance "fry" field grade officers who either failed to do the due diligence to know what the Joint Federal Travel Regulations were for different TDY situations, or didn't think they pertained to them.

Skimming a few bucks on a travel claim is extremely frowned upon. It brings into direct question your integrity, and is illegal. Don't do it.

If you are told you will be entitled to lodging, meals, and incidentals, listen closely to what you are being told, and read the fine print. Any questions, ask someone in authority. That is not the guy who is in "advanced" when you are in "primary."

I don't know the particulars of the NAS CC possible HURREVAC, but in other times there have been HURREVACs that directed where you would go, instead of just "Get out of town and keep us informed." Thus, you may be directed to go to a base, possibly around San Antonio. You may be directed to utilize government quarters and messing. If so, that will limit your reimbursement, regardless of where you eat or stay, unless there's no room on base. Given the unique nature of a massive HURREVAC, they can direct you stay in a barracks (gov't quarters provided) or put you in contract lodging. Don't whine. This ain't the Air Force - you are not "entitled" to a specific amount of square footage for your hooch. Relax. You will end up living in worse squalor in your Navy career.

If you are directed to find yourself a place to stay, remember that lodging is a direct reimbursement (dollar for dollar up to the max allowable). If you stay with friends, you get nothing. Don't try and fabricate a "bed and breakfast" receipt from your buddy. This is clearly addressed in the regs, and unless you can prove your buddy has historically been in the bed and breakfast business (typically as evidenced by some sort of hotelier license from the local taxing authority), you will be guilty of fraud. The burden is on you to prove it.

If you double up in a hotel, you still need to provide receipts, and will only get reimbursed for your portion. There is no opportunity (legally) to make money off the lodging. However, doubling up saves the government money. That's a good thing. It might also enable the hotel to accomodate another family who is running for their life as well. You might also check w/ admin (or see this link http://www.window.state.tx.us/taxinfo/taxforms/12-302.pdf ) for a Texas hotel tax exempt certificate. This will allow you not to pay taxes on your hotel room. Not all places take them, but many do. I direct that all my travelers attempt to use one of these. It is known as being a good steward of the taxpayer's money. You should always strive to be one.

The meals rate is either going to be gov't messing available and reimbursed at a rate somewhere around $10 per day, or it will be the local rate (at your destination). If you elect to subsist on ramen noodles then the delta between your actual food expenses and the local meal rate can be used for beer money. You will not be required to produce a receipt for each meal expense.

Be safe and be smart.
 

BENDER

Member
pilot
So I live in SW Houston...ya think I may need to leave? haha

I'm here in sugar land but staying. My zip has not been called yet but I am 20 miles south of downtown. Currently in class praying they will close shop before my thermo class. There's a good chance that we will have to fly the flight school's planes out to KSAT so that will be my ticket out of here.
 

picklesuit

Dirty Hinge
pilot
Contributor
Well, as official as I could get it, according to the EOC there will be no Mando Evac. So now I get to have a fun time chilling at home by myself as everyone else left. The Super-8 people were awesome and didn't charge me for the late cancellation:D:D

Now where do I return these sandbags??? (after Ike, of course):icon_smil
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
Yeah, the Hyatt waved our cancellation fees as well. I just hope the power doesn't go out, and that the low bridge doesn't flood
 
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