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IWC Board Nov 20

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Triumph_MAC

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dldis said:
Is there a specific way to format or word the waivers? Once you have them, who do you send them to? Do they get sent with your package or before? I appreciate any help/advice on this. Thank you!
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You'll type a letter that you sign requesting the waiver. You'll also type one that your Skipper will endorse. The letter your Skipper signs should be echoing what you stated basing it off your academic accomplishments or how that score doesn't reflect your aptitude to be an Officer.
Once you have both copies, you'll send them with the rest of your package to Mr. Celestin. You should hear back about 2 weeks later if they were or weren't approved.
The one your skipper signs should be on command letterhead, which your admin guys should have a template to go off of. Shoot me a DM and I can help you out a little more.
 
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BasketballisLife

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FYSA to anyone that applied for other designators that met after Dec 1,

Saw this posted in the SWO groups.
 

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avmar

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A breakdown would be much appreciated.

Also, it appears that there are fewer "Current 1st and 2nd Choice Kits Awaiting Board" for IP and CW than there are "Remaining Select Needed". Does this mean that they will likely pick all, or at least the majority, of the applicants?
 
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exNavyOffRec

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PringleMan said:
Can someone familiar with these documents please help break down what the different columns mean.
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TS Goal - how many application NRC believes they will need to meet the goal.
TS Attain - how many have been submitted to NRC
Pro - Y Goal - how many they will need this FY (I believe this will equal the commissioning goal or it used to)
Attained/Pro Rec - how many they have shipped to OCS and given Pro Rec Y to
Remaining select needed - difference between the preceding 2 columns
Max 1st and 2nd allowed - how many they will allow per board, this is often a "flexible" number or often looked over
Current 1st and 2nd - these are screened and waiting for board to happen
Max 1st and 2nd remaining - pretty much the same as the other max except for the FY and also "flexible"

This is pretty close to what I used in the past, but not exact, the past one was more straightforward.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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avmar said:
A breakdown would be much appreciated.

Also, it appears that there are fewer "Current 1st and 2nd Choice Kits Awaiting Board" for IP and CW than there are "Remaining Select Needed". Does this mean that they will likely pick all, or at least the majority, of the applicants?
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nope, there is still another board to be held and given the reductions in OCS class sizes they may or may not be able to fill all the FY 21 spots, does that mean they don't select as many or does that mean they select what the number is then push what they can't get into FY 21 to FY 22 and FY 22 takes it in the shorts, who knows......

If I was to guess on what would happen is that take the remaining select and cut it in half since there is another board, the other thing is it just shows 1st and 2nd, you have many that apply CW, IP, Intel or CW, Intel, IP as an example, and IWC has had a habit of putting a person where they want so you may apply for IP and be selected for CW.

This could be a good board to be at IF they don't take a reduction in spots and IF they select half of what they have left, they could also decide to push many of the spots to the next board to see what happens with OCS. There are way to many possibilities with Covid right now.
 
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notacoverband

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So if I'm reading the previous post and the sheet correctly this seems like some pretty good news for anyone looking at CW or IP correct?
 
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Triumph_MAC

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The remaining selects needed is what I'm curious about. Is that just a rough "go by"? The number selected from the 26 Oct aviation board were well above the remaining selects needed for the GENOFF Dash board that was released in October prior to that board.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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Triumph_MAC said:
The remaining selects needed is what I'm curious about. Is that just a rough "go by"? The number selected from the 26 Oct aviation board were well above the remaining selects needed for the GENOFF Dash board that was released in October prior to that board.
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That is a good catch, if you remember many of those who were selected were getting FY 22 spots, if some of those put in FY 22 spots were originally counted in the FY 21 sheet that would explain why the number went back up.

That now brings up the question again, will they fill all those FY 21 spots with reductions in OCS class sizes, will they just not make as many selections or will they select the same numbers and then push to FY 22 who they can't get to OCS?
 
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PringleMan

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exNavyOffRec said:
That is a good catch, if you remember many of those who were selected were getting FY 22 spots, if some of those put in FY 22 spots were originally counted in the FY 21 sheet that would explain why the number went back up.

That now brings up the question again, will they fill all those FY 21 spots with reductions in OCS class sizes, will they just not make as many selections or will they select the same numbers and then push to FY 22 who they can't get to OCS?
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I think the latter is likely. I have a buddy that got picked for Pilot and then his OCS date on the memo was just "FY22." Seems like they are getting their numbers that they need for the community continuity and then just pushing the OCS date back.

It makes me wonder how they will call the year group down the line though for the manning calculations.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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PringleMan said:
I think the latter is likely. I have a buddy that got picked for Pilot and then his OCS date on the memo was just "FY22." Seems like they are getting their numbers that they need for the community continuity and then just pushing the OCS date back.

It makes me wonder how they will call the year group down the line though for the manning calculations.
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They can only push so much, and some designators are more critical than others Nuke is the most critical, and then given the nature of what they do SNA/SNFO would be as well, SWO's to a lesser extent, I would put IWC, Supply, and PAO low on the critical scale.

YG is still the YG, it will just be a bit reduced, you still have all the commission's from USNA and NROTC
 
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Triumph_MAC

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I wonder how all this will look when class sizes go back to full capacity. Will NRC then move the applicants selected for FY21 spots that had FY22 dates back into classes before FY22? Or, is NRC not anticipating going to back to 100% capacity until FY22.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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Triumph_MAC said:
I wonder how all this will look when class sizes go back to full capacity. Will NRC then move the applicants selected for FY21 spots that had FY22 dates back into classes before FY22? Or, is NRC not anticipating going to back to 100% capacity until FY22.
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and that is the big unknown, they went to full class sizes before then dropped back down.
 
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