Welcome aboard. Consider it preparation for the first time that Mom and Dad give you a midnight curfew in a foreign port.
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liberty limits
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Welcome aboard. Consider it preparation for the first time that Mom and Dad give you a midnight curfew in a foreign port.
You can't say that without telling us a horrific story!
I had to do a leave chit for a trip I took, didn't seem so bad. Filled it out, sent it in. Easiest part of the travel process...
Raptor2216
Registered User
To echo what Bevo already said, read the Navy Operations Center daily OPREP/SITREP summary when you get a chance to use SIPR. You will see daily confirmation that Darwin is alive and well, proven by sailors every day.
To paraphrase something I read the other day, out of 100 things that need fixing in the Navy, this is 101.
To paraphrase something I read the other day, out of 100 things that need fixing in the Navy, this is 101.
Cool, can you work on extending my leave as well? Kthxbye
sailorjerry
New Member
If you are at your home station, do you get automatic time off for holidays or do you have to use some of your leave days for those times?
The rules apply to all, by the way. I'm on leave over 2K from NASK. I have a sick kid who can't fly. The first thing I do...Call the Skipper to extend my leave. Leave and liberty policies (by the way liberty is a out of CONUS concept--that's where the out of bounds / out of local area lingo slips into command policies) are part of raising the right hand and taking the oath. After we take the oath we are part of the National Security list of assets, right down to the E1 or O1. Accountability and responsibility are two valuable words for our entire careers and it starts with self accountability and responsibility. The policies are there to aid us remained focused on our importance to National Defense.
D_Rob
Lead LTJG
FYI..OCONUS leave has to be approved by the Commodore (at TW-4)...no I am not kidding. I made the mistake of mentioning I might jump up into Canada while vacationing in Vermont and all kinda bells and whistles went off.
This trend pisses me off about the current state of the Navy. I'm not so mush talking about the out of bounds BS as I am about COs restricting port call liberty. My position is.... don't punish the entire crew because you have a few dip shits and think an early curfew will mitigate the risk of a liberty incident: take the single person that fvcks up and hammer him. You roll into half of the ports these days and kids wait for hours to get off the boat and have to return at some absurdly early time. :icon_rage
That's the standard way of thinking. I punished two of my sailors in my COD det back in 05 after they got into a fight in Singapore. They were lucky to not have been arrested but I was hauled into the Admirals office and threatened to have my entire det punished....all because of two guys. On the next deployment, I had a sailor almost blow it for the det at the beginning of cruise, in Hawaii. I warned them, one person can blow it for everyone. I hammered this kid btw, as a warning to anyone else.
True......I probably shouldn't have called out COs as this is definitely a result of pressure from the top. I bet when the guys at the top were JO's liberty was a completely different animal.
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
What's that saying? "I got mine, pull the ladder up" or something similar?