Individual augment. You go over to bad guy land and fill in a billet they need filled for some chunk of time (generally in the neighborhood of 7 months to a year like MB alluded to). What MB said.
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Married Pilots, need some advice...
- Thread starter FlybyWired06
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sorry to ask this stupid question, just tryin to be well informed. so an IA is a deployment away from home during your shore duty or is that totally wrong?
MasterBates
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It can be whenever. I was going to go on one while on sea duty, but after my second deployment. Since I ended up not going, I was told to plan on one during my shore tour.
kevkwondo08
Registered User
Which is more common- married or unmarried pilots? And which area of the navy (intel, aviation, etc.) has the greatest amount of divorcees?
Maybe, but I'd say it's like living your Ferrari unattended with plenty of car thieves in the area. Some might be able to crack the security. Some not.
A couple of true stories can perhaps share a real issue for aviators. One JO in our squadron had a fellow RAG buddy staying with him and his wife and he deployed while his good buddy looked out for his "belongings". By the end of the six month cruise, he was told to find another place to live. Another JO came home to an empty house with no forwarding info as to whereabouts of his wife or 3 sons. In both cases, the spouse was needy and didn't do well with separation. This would be true whether the gents had flown P-3s or were in a civilian line of business that required travel. I knew the spouse in the first instance and she was very needy and he talked just like you trying to maximize time at home, but it was never enough. If you put yourself in that position, you will be suboptimizing your career or duty while trying to optimize your marriage and it's a recipe for disaster.
That said, separation isn't easy but it isn't all bad. It can tear a relationship apart or make it stronger. When i got to my first real shore job that was a 9 to 5 situation, I was home at same time every day and we found ourselves at odds initially until I took the first trip. She then said she had a couple revelations while I was gone. The first one was she had been so used to runing the show at home and liked it that way so having me back was an ajustment with growing pains not unlike first getting married and figuring out how to make mutual decisions. The second revelation was she thought being gone also made her realize that she liked having me around and had on another level started to talk me for granted so the trip made her appreciate me more. Now she'll say "It's time for you to go on a trip".
Getting back to Navy deployments....we found that workups were hardest to deal with with out and back and constant changes in when you'd go or come back whereas a six month deployment was more of a constant situation to cope with and that was when letters with at least two week turnarounds were as good as it got (unless you wanted send a telegram or try MARS which were both suboptimum means of comms).
Like others have said, I don't think you can count on a particular platform yielding the best "at home" time. Also like others have attested, you could end up in a squadron that has miserable quality of life even though you're not deployed. You also risk being "that guy" who puts home in front of duty while trying to balance their life. Those guys stand out and not in a good way. You can then expect special attention from peers and superiors.
CO of a carrier is a major command.
helo_wifey
Well-Known Member
I agree with this, and I've said it many times before...when my husband is away it gives me time to focus on me (we don't have kids) and do the things I want to do that he normally wouldn't. For us it keeps things interesting, and it's an amazing feeling when you know they're coming home in a week and you get to rediscover your relationship.
Your poll is worthless. Who are the 15 that answered? What is their background? Do they have the actual knowledge to back up their vote or is it heresy? How many are wanna-bes that are voting based on what they've "heard"?
Most F-18 drivers really have no idea what life is like for P-3 or helo guys, etc. It's mostly opinions based on community perceptions and prejudices. Unless they have a contact in another community where they've compared lives, it's all heresy and anecdotal info when they vote in your poll.
I truly hope you do not make your decision based on a meaningless poll.
The discussion is where your info comes, and where you can judge the validity of the comments by referring to the poster's background/profile.
Such noble sentiments. Do you think the vast majority of COs go into their command tours with the idea of fvcking their sailors out of a good family life?
It's called mission completion. The CO gets his marching orders from the CAG/Commodore. The CAG/Commodore from the Admiral, etc. Big Navy wants the mission done and the CO, CAG/Commodore and Admiral don't get to the positions they are in but neglecting mission accomplishment. Everyone tries to give their Sailors a good quality of life but that is secondary to the mission. If you can't accept this, the military is not for you. If you can't support and direct this, you will not be a CO.
Young idealism is just that - idealism. It has no basis on reality. It's great to be a newly commissioned office and pontificate about how you will be when in command. But reality trumps idealism and you have don't have the experience to even begin to understand the pressures of command.
I'm not knocking your idealism, I'm just pointing out that it is nothing new and you make the same comments as every JO. The good COs still try but the JOs (and their families) have to remember the mission comes first.
You'll need to get your wings first and spend some time in a Ready Room before you can have any credibility making statements like that.
I don't think this guy is basing his selection off of a poll. He is just trying to find out more info on the different platforms. While he doesn't need to make his decision just for his wife, he does need to include her in his decision making.
The poll is not public so I can't see who the 30+ people are who voted. But you would be surprised what people know about other communities.
MasterBates
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That's a new image for A4s? They teach a class on images.google.com at the home today?
You're right.
Mebbe THIS is more appropriate for the current state and worthiness of this thread .. ????
