Mexico threatens lawsuits over Guard

[Pags]

But the thing about the Irish is that they aren't that different from most Americans and many came here and assimilated. They also spoke english.

The illegals from south of the border do not want to assimilate, and vastly different from most of America culturally.

IMO, a ten foot tall wall with razor wire atop it and some land mines will close the border pretty damn quick. Oh, and give the border patrol orders to shoot-to-kill.

They eventually assimilated. But St. Patricks day sure is a big deal in a lot of cities and to a lot of folks. Don't think that the assimilation was overnight. The irish were very hated in this country for a long time. The irish were very different and were viewed as a big threat...a lot of people were not big fans of their catholicism.

 

[Country Boy]

A sizeable percentage of Americans also abuse these systems, should we shoot them too?

Yes

A lot of times you see Mexican flags being waved WITH American flags at the same time. It's not just Mexico, or even latin America only.

The type of flag they were raising wasn't the point, it was what they were protesting for and the fact that they were even protesting.

 

[FelixTheGreat]

Yeah, that's just what our economy needs is to take on tens of millions of new welfare mouths to feed, rampant crime and dilapidated infrastructure.

Tens of millions of Mexican citizens are flooding in here anyway. Mexico is a ****hole because the corrupt single party government is run by rich pigs who help the country to retain the fudalism that spain imparted when it was first conquered. If Mexico were annexed the U.S. government could restrore the economy and bring an end to the serfism down there.

 

[Pags]

Tens of millions of Mexican citizens are flooding in here anyway. Mexico is a ****hole because the corrupt single party government is run by rich pigs who help the country to retain the fudalism that spain imparted when it was first conquered. If Mexico were annexed the U.S. government could restrore the economy and bring an end to the serfism down there.

with a wave of the magic democracy wand?

 

[HueyCobra8151]

Tens of millions of Mexican citizens are flooding in here anyway. Mexico is a ****hole because the corrupt single party government is run by rich pigs who help the country to retain the fudalism that spain imparted when it was first conquered. If Mexico were annexed the U.S. government could restrore the economy and bring an end to the serfism down there.

Yes, government instituted policies work wonders on assisting the poor and homeless.

Cabrini Green was practically a summer home resort....

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The government cannot and should not be expected to "restore the economy." Having a vibrant capitalistic system does that - not government mandated regulations.

Nearly everything the government sets its mind to fixing gets worse, not better: The War on Poverty, The War on Drugs, The War on Racism, etc...

 

[FelixTheGreat]

The simple act of removing the current Mexican government would work wonders for the economy. The U.S. government shouldn't be responsible for controlling the economy. Removing a government where setting up a business is more about kick-backs and bribes and replacing it with a more free-market capitalist one would benifit the citizens. These third-world economies suffer when opening a fruitful buisness is dependant on bribes and a rich upper-classes approval, and taking aid or jumping ship becomes a better option than self induced prosperity.

 

[Brett327]

The simple act of removing the current Mexican government would work wonders for the economy. The U.S. government shouldn't be responsible for controlling the economy. Removing a government where setting up a business is more about kick-backs and bribes and replacing it with a more free-market capitalist one would benifit the citizens. These third-world economies suffer when opening a fruitful buisness is dependant on bribes and a rich upper-classes approval, and taking aid or jumping ship becomes a better option than self induced prosperity.

How's that working out in Iraq? Ridiculous. The problem with regime change, as I eluded to earlier, is that once the US gets involved, we own all the preexisting and possible future problems of that country. So, instead of dealing with 10 million impoverished people, we now have to handle 107 million MORE impoverished people who now want to kill us. Don't underestimate the power of nationalism - especially in Mexico.

So, besides all of that and the unanimous condemnation from the international community, what's in it for the US to do something like that? American style democracy is not the cookie cutter solution for all of the world's problems, nor does the US have the resources or moral standing to make it so.

Brett

 

[zab1001]

But the thing about the Irish is that they aren't that different from most Americans and many came here and assimilated.

That, and the rest of your post, may be one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

 

[Slammer2]

I think it is time the United States just annexed Mexico. Enough Mexican citizens want to be in the U.S. anyway. If the U.S. were to annex Mexico, we would gain some senic land, the border to protect south of Mexico would be smaller, and cancun would still be in the U.S.. The prices for staying in resorts would go down to tourists with no more kickbacks going to a corupt Mexican govt.

Eh...then the Guatemalans would be trying to come over.

 

[Fly Navy]

That is totally an east coast thing. You wont find that too much in SOCAL.

Brett

And the difference being they identify themselves as American first.

 

[Pags]

And the difference being they identify themselves as American first.

Now they do, but I think that probably took a few generations. It was pretty common for them to group together into specific areas of towns; think Southey in Boston, and also the numerous Chinatowns and Little Italies in numerous cities to cite a few examples. After a few generations, backgrounds became mixed and ties to the old country became less and less as their children became more and more "american".

 

[nittany03]

Now they do, but I think that probably took a few generations. It was pretty common for them to group together into specific areas of towns; think Southey in Boston, and also the numerous Chinatowns and Little Italies in numerous cities to cite a few examples. After a few generations, backgrounds became mixed and ties to the old country became less and less as their children became more and more "american".

Exactly. Those who say the "melting pot" is obsolete haven't taken a long enough view.

 

[Fly Navy]

 

[FelixTheGreat]

You have to love how these issues always seem to pop-up every other year, on even numbered years.

 

[TurnandBurn55]

But the thing about the Irish is that they aren't that different from most Americans and many came here and assimilated.

Well, I guess we had the "W" in "WASP" covered with the Irish...