Back on track - the whole issue was a local gov't coming in to move its flight ops for its heavy flight loading onto a military base. There's plenty of dual use fields now, but most only involve a limited amount of mil on a civilian field (i.e. Ellington) or limited civ on a mil field (i.e. Eglin). San Diego wants a ready-made solution for their problem, and unfortunately there's far too much going on at Miramar to support them. They waited so long to consider it a major issue that they're really hurting to fix it now. They screwed themselves and want to absorb (and I can only imagine) to eventually take over the whole facility while telling the military "not our problem, go find somewhere else to live."
Same runways ... same-O, same-O ... different side of 'da "base" .... it causes a few problems from time to time. Usually, it's because the HANG is staffed and flown by a high percentage of aviation Rubes ... Island style ...What about Hickam AFB in Hawaii? I think that has active units there (and reserve), and it doubles as the civie airport (PHNL).
Brett
I.e., from Boom Trenchard's Flare Path ... what a fine place ... east side of the field on the runways ... now defunct.Always fun to watch the planes come in for an approach to Lindberg Field from the east. .....
I think ultimately to city is going to have to build something in North or East County that will cost them $20-30 billion and take 10-15 years to complete. Or, they could just bulldoze San Ysidro and/or National City to build there.
Brett
Better yet, move all of the hornets at lemoore to North Island and give Lemoore to San Diego.
i thought the 147th pulled out of Ellington?Ellington Field in Houston is another one. They've got the 147th Fighter Wing there, as well as the NASA T-38s. Its pretty awesome when you're a greenhorn student pilot with only a few hours in a Cessna flying with F-16's in the pattern.
Davis-Monthan is Mil-only ... Tuscon Intl about 5nm south has reserve F-16sWell sh!t, let's not forget Davis-Mothan AFB out in Tuscon. They have reserve F-16's there.
Please, PLEASE, PLEASE keep these rumors going!!!...... the Corps should sell Miramar to the city for the going SoCal price and move to either NJK or NYL.
s/f
Give San Diego North Island. All the S-3s are going away soon. The helos can use anywhere - the back of a wal mart parking lot. Better yet, move all of the hornets at lemoore to North Island and give Lemoore to San Diego.
I was thinking the same thing. Figure somewhere out around Brown Field / Otay Mesa would be perfect. Then the air traffic could wave at the air traffic for Tijuana Int'l since it's right across the border. They'd have to put those illegal alien caution signs like they have on I-5 on all the taxiways though.