Navy Aircraft Currently in Use/Soon to Retire..

[FMRAM]

I'm a taxpaying individual, so in effect that aircraft (and any following it) are mine (as well as 300 million others)! I understand most of this is not yet "public" knowledge, but then again it isn't classified or protected either and doesn't hurt to actually discuss it..

You have got to be kidding...what an A$$hole

 

[nocal80]

I guess the Navy or Marine Corps doesn't use Helicopters anymore...cause they were left out..

talk about slap in the face for them..

the original question asked about navy/marine fixed wing a/c and bases, not all a/c.

 

[Gatordev]

Not to mention he's an NFO candidate.

 

[VetteMuscle427]

• FA-18 (A/B/C/D/E/F/G) - NAS Oceana, NAS Lemoore, NAF Atsugi, NAF Washington
• EA-6B - NAS Whidbey Island

Ummmm..... No F/A-18s at NAF Washington... the ones that were there a while ago were USMC anyway... But you left out VAQ-209 that is at NAF Washington...

 

[jmiller82]

Again, as I mentioned earlier, I apologize for not getting the correct bases either in order to with their respective platforms and also for having outdated information. In regards to leaving out rotary platforms, I'm an NFO candidate and unfortunately not able to serve as an NFO on board a helo. That is not to say that they are any better or any worse than fixed wing platforms... To each his own opinion. As for the "public" sources for this information, I think we'd all agree that the public knowledge of these aircraft is about slim to none, other than the Blue Angels (FA-18), a blurb about some units deploying on a local news channel, or the BRAC commission on CNN downsizing and the subsequent platforms retiring, etc.. If you were to ask what the major aircraft for the USN were to an ordinary civilian, you'd probably get a dumb@$$ answer like helicopters and jets (not any specifics). So, in keeping with the purpose of this forum and my original intent of the question, I feel that these questions and replies (so long as they are related) are informative, whether or not I am active, retired, or civilian. In regard to the statement of "public knowledge," yes I can (at least according to US Statutes and DoD policy) go and research these platforms. It has nothing to do with me wanting to release information or causing ill will to anyone. I myself will be in the same shoes in the near future and would be a dumb@$$ to do anything to either jeopardize myself or anyone else's safety or well being. I believe if it is posted online, it is either unclassified or declassified. If it is password protected (which I've yet to come across), then I believe that is classified or only available to intranet users for that respective area. Correct me if I am wrong, but actually seeing or talking about a fixed wing aircraft that is used by the USN doesn't require a security clearance. I'll have to check with the S-1 about that though!

As for NAF Washington WHEN I WAS DOING SOME RESEARCH ONLINE, I read that NAF Washington (Reserve Unit I believe) would be getting some of the first FA-18G "Growlers."

I understand everyone's need to feel like they should guard this information, but I can assure you that I am only inquiring about BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT!! I am an NFO candidate just as you were a few (or a bunch depending on your seniority) years ago. I'm sure, however, that you guys were in the same boat asking away questions about what platforms/options were available after API/Primary, without regard to "the needs of the Navy" or individual flight school performance. Cut me a little slack and let's all just be friends here! I appreciate the criticism, but the contextual interpretations are a bit old now.. Take an expert's advice: Search the forum and Read the info (or in this case, the question)!! Other than that, keep the replies rolling in..

 

[jmiller82]

Oh yeah, one more question for you guys.. Does anyone know if NAF Atsugi is a fleet replacement squadron or is it simply what is called "forward deployment?" I've heard from some pilots that FA-18's are there, and I know that there's a Naval Station (with the Kitty Hawk) southeast of there - Yokosuka, but I wasn't sure if they linked up with the Kitty Hawk or any other carriers as a CAG..

 

[gregsivers]

The whole air wing at Atsugi deploys with/on the Kitty Hawk Strike Group. Its not an FRS, simply a forward deployed squadron, as is everything in Japan. They might det out to other CVN groups, not sure about that.

 

[TurnandBurn55]

As for the "public" sources for this information, I think we'd all agree that the public knowledge of these aircraft is about slim to none... If you were to ask what the major aircraft for the USN were to an ordinary civilian, you'd probably get a dumb@$$ answer like helicopters and jets (not any specifics).

I'm sorry dude, but this is nonsense. The amount of knowledge available to the general public is massive... perhaps even shocking... if the average civilian doesn't know what kind of planes the USN has, it's his own fault because he doesn't care or has made zero effort to find out.
And by zero, I mean, zero. Just googling "Navy aircraft" would find the answer in a hurry.

 

[HeyJoe]

CVW-5 and USS Kitty Hawk

The whole air wing at Atsugi deploys with/on the Kitty Hawk Strike Group. Its not an FRS, simply a forward deployed squadron, as is everything in Japan. They might det out to other CVN groups, not sure about that.

The Air Wing at Atsugi is Carrier Air Wing Five (CVW-5 or "CAG" 5) https://www.cvw5.navy.mil/and it is assigned to the USS Kitty Hawk, which is the flagship of the Kitty Hawk Carrier Strike Group (CSG). The squadrons in CVW-5 receive their "replacements" from CONUS based FRS units. They do not det out to other carriers although Kitty Hawk functioned as a SPECOPS Afloat Forward Staging Base (AFSB) during OEF and shed part of the Air Wing to make room for SPECOPS helos and in OIF some aircraft were sent ashore in support of SPECOPS.

 

[TurnandBurn55]

One more thing.. Are the following FRS (Fleet Replacement Squadrons) correct for these aircraft:
FA-18F: NAS Oceana & NAS Lemoore
VFA-106 (E/F) in Oceana, VFA-122 in Lemoore
EA-6B: NAS Whidbey Island
VAQ-129
E-2C: NS Norfolk
VAW-120 (also happens to hold their Advanced portion of flight school)
E-6A: Tinker AFB
VQ-7... I think??
P-3/EP-3: NAS Jacksonville

VP-30 in Jax

 

[Chubby]

The Air Wing at Atsugi is Carrier Air Wing Five (CVW-5 or "CAG" 5) https://www.cvw5.navy.mil/and it is assigned to the USS Kitty Hawk, which is the flagship of the Kitty Hawk Carrier Strike Group (CSG). The squadrons in CVW-5 receive their "replacements" from CONUS based FRS units. They do not det out to other carriers although Kitty Hawk functioned as a SPECOPS Afloat Forward Staging Base (AFSB) during OEF and shed part of the Air Wing to make room for SPECOPS helos and in OIF some aircraft were sent ashore in support of SPECOPS.

Do they (CVW-5) pull from the West coast RAG's or both?

 

[HooverPilot]

Ok, now I'm on a normal computer and can make the point better. If you spent 5 minutes doing some simple searches you would have found all of this info that probably answers your every question. There is a wealth of knowledge on AirWarriors, but have a few of the basics down when you ask a question. You are NOT ENTITLED TO AN ANSWER FROM ANYONE. Just because it's unclassified and you want to know about it, doesn't mean that I/we will talk about it. You brought up the AGM earlier, there is significant, unclassified info I could give you in response to your question, but I choose not to share it. You are allowed to research all you want, but so are the Chinese. After you review these sights, please ask any follow on questions and we will be more willing to answer.

http://www.navy.mil/links/alpha.asp
http://www.navy.mil/navydata/our_ships.asp
http://www.navy.mil/navydata/fact.asp
http://www.npc.navy.mil/Officer/Aviation/
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/station-navy.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/port.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/facility/nas.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/s-3.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/p-3.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/e-2.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/ea-6.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/f-18.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/intell/systems/ep-3.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/index.html
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/intro.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/overview.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/mds.htm
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=navy+aircraft

 

[A4sForever]

^^ I'm impressed, Hoover ... BZ. You didn't have to do it ... but you forgot one:

http://www.airwarriors.com/forum/showthread.php?p=229662#post229662

Caio...

 

[Gatordev]

I don't know why this thread degenerated into what it did. The point Hoover was trying to make is to search the threads here, and you'll find a lot of the answers you're looking for (locations/mission, etc). Beyond that, I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for, so maybe clarify your question(s) after you poke around the site a bit and take the time to use the search function (ie, don't just post a question because you don't feel like searching).

EDIT: Just saw Hoover's thread. Good links to follow.

As for everyone else, give the guy a break. That's why the site is here. He's readily admitted his knowledge was limited.

 

[jmiller82]

Hoover and Gatordev,

Thanks for the pointers in the right direction. I've searched most of these sites, except for globalsecurity.org (only found out about it today), but I will be sure to go over it again and again and again. I have alot to learn and I just figured that you guys would enjoy rattling off some minor information related to FRS and also decommissioning of platforms. As Hoover said, I am not entitled to an answer... On the flip side, it is not mandatory that you even reply or view the thread. I'm a bit more thick-skinned than some of these other newbies, butgive us a break.. We're not SUPPOSED to know everything.. yet. It just seems like some of this info I'm inquiring about is a big secret.. Hoover, thanks anyways and I will be getting back to you once I am well read and accredited in the Hoover research method (that is to say I've searched/read all of Hoover's pre-req's).. Maybe he should've gone Intel if he's so worried about the Chinese infiltration!!

Gatordev.. Can't quabble with you (my wife is a gator alum and I'm a nole alum so it's a moot point)!

Anyway, guys, thanks for the helpful info and good luck with everything.. Hope you guys put this much passion and effort into flying everyday!!