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New UAV pilots 'winged'

adimas

July Final Select SNA
Part of the reason I got out of AFROTC was because I was not about to bust my arse and suck up to get a pilot spot so I can kill myself in B.F.E. Texas so that I could fly something from a trailer in B.F.E. Texas. Needless to say, I agree with you.


Texas isn't that bad come on; well maybe west Texas! Better TX then in the middle of the desert in AZ or NV.
 

phrogpilot73

Well-Known Member
Tactical UAVs are one thing - the very low altitudes and very slow speeds they fly at means they're not as dangerous to everyone else. But big-boy UAVs (Preds, Reaper, etc) are flying up in big-boy airspace with everyone else.
I disagree. Tactical UAVs are operating at the altitudes that rotary wing routinely operates at. I would almost argue that they are MORE dangerous, because they are operated by guys who have ZERO understanding of airspace. I lost count after using both my fingers and toes of how many near-midairs I had with the small tactical ones.
 

pourts

former Marine F/A-18 pilot & FAC, current MBA stud
pilot
Bottom line, I think a bunch of ppl in this thread are getting their panties in a bunch for nothing. Majority of you have no clue how our present day UAS system works and the safeguards built into it...UAS is here to stay, they are professionals, and as we are continuing to learn, the UAS platforms aren't the end all that we always thought them to be, and can't replace manned aircraft in all mission sets.

Maybe so, but we are talking about what hapens once the guys flying the UAVs have much less training, and no time in an actual airplane.
 

Godspeed

His blood smells like cologne.
pilot
I feel like I'm the only one that thinks UAVs would be a great gig. Do I think it's as good of a gig as actually flying? No. But it sure beats everything else (IMHO).

Perks:
1) You live in Las f**king Vegas.
2) You work in a nice, dark, air conditioned building/shack.
3) You probably kill more evil dirka dirkas on a daily basis than most in other platforms would get to in a lifetime.
4) Ultimately you are in theater every time you come to work, always making a difference.
5) Every night you go home, crack open a beer, watch the Ricky Lake show, eat a ham sandwich, screw your wife and turn in for a good night sleep in your 1000 thread count Egyptian cotten, temperpedic bed.

Maybe I have a different perspective because I was previously designated a SUPPO and had to beg, borrow, and steal for my flight slot.
 

webmaster

The Grass is Greener!
pilot
Site Admin
Contributor
Maybe so, but we are talking about what hapens once the guys flying the UAVs have much less training, and no time in an actual airplane.
But once again, you only reinforce my point. The higher Tier UAS platforms are most definitely NOT requiring stick and rudder skills, and are directly designed to go to point A and ORBIT. Managing and moving those assets is akin to a watch floor organization with a superb top down view of the battle space moving those units about. Come on now, airspace as we have it currently utilized is NOT rocket science.
 

jarhead

UAL CA; retired hinge
pilot
IMHO... I think the current asspain Marine Harrier & Hornet JO pilots are going through is as bad as AF dudes getting sent UAVs...

SF
 

jarhead

UAL CA; retired hinge
pilot
What ass-pain is that, IA's?
among other things... but yea, train a dude for 3+ years only to send him to an IA billet right out of the RAG, or worse, at his 2yr mark right when he's getting comfortable in the jet & at a time where he should be getting quals.

I think almost as worse is seeing dudes barely getting annual mins.

It also sucks to be undermanned with pilots...sucks to fly less than 10 hrs a month but still working 12+hr days due to your ground jobs...but "how are pilots barely getting annual mins if there aren't that many pilots" you ask....because the jets are broke, unless you are working up or on deployment... feast or (mostly) famine.

again, just my opinion.

SF
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
I bounced with one in the pattern at CRP post hurricane Ike. Disconcerting, at best. Really effing hard to see, too.

Yeah I remember seeing that as we were packing up the sand bags around the sqdn spaces. Creepy to see, especially as it taxied off the runway and just sat there waiting for its escort truck.
 
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