Oct 2013 IDC/SWO-IDC Options Board

[Kory]

Don't brag too much about that. It's something the Navy Officer's Corps usually points to in order to set us apart from USA/USAF/USMC... In most cases, we are required to have, at the very least, a full year of calc and calc based physics. Point being, there are no dumb Naval Officers...

That's some funny stuff right there. Good one.

 

[azguy]

That's some funny stuff right there. Good one.

Ya, a "degree" in "Buisness Organizational Skills" ... sry dude u r so smarts...

Hope to meet you in the fleet some day, seriously.

 

[zdexter]

Looks much more like good, than bad?

Congratulations ! Iff'n they want you, I'm sure they'll rectify that... when I was selected for SNA, I had never been in an airplane, nor met a pilot, now I are one!
BzB

Definitely more good, than bad! I do not want to complain, because I am truly happy that I was selected. I was just surprised as to what I was selected for.

 

[Kory]

Ya, a "degree" in "Buisness Organizational Skills" ... sry dude u r so smarts...

Hope to meet you in the fleet some day, seriously.

Me thinks someone takes himself a little to seriously... Keep it above decks there. I didn't go trying to insult you. If maturity is an issue for you then go play your crap somewhere else. Your calc and physics may come in handy but some social skills go a long way too.

 

[zdexter]

I'll be curious to see what kind of timeframe we are looking at for OCS dates now. I've already taken care of my medical at Bethesda, and already have my clearance... so I would assume it will depend on what works for Newport and then of course, the paper pushing. It never ceases to amaze me how long it can take to transfer clearances.

 

[MSAUZI101]

It's not rocket science, all of these guys getting picked up have posted their stats. Do you have a masters in a relevant field? Do you speak a critical language? Have you interned/worked in the IC? Do you have flag officer LORs? Give your recruiter or the detailer a call and they should pick up pretty quickly on where you are lacking...

I have Master's degree, speaking critical language (getting language pay $500 monthly), more than 8 years of professional working experience (including being a University Professor, Navy SEALs and SWCC instructor).

 

[azguy]

I have Master's degree, speaking critical language (getting language pay $500 monthly), more than 8 years of professional working experience (including being a University Professor, Navy SEALs and SWCC instructor).

OK... And you're a CS3? There has to more to the story...

 

[LFCFan]

I'll be curious to see what kind of timeframe we are looking at for OCS dates now. I've already taken care of my medical at Bethesda, and already have my clearance... so I would assume it will depend on what works for Newport and then of course, the paper pushing. It never ceases to amaze me how long it can take to transfer clearances.

OCS dates for IDC types (especially intel) take forever. Could be up to a year. No one should make plans to go anywhere anytime soon.

 

[Kory]

I have Master's degree, speaking critical language (getting language pay $500 monthly), more than 8 years of professional working experience (including being a University Professor, Navy SEALs and SWCC instructor).

I agree with AZGUY, something doesn't smell right.

 

[exNavyOffRec]

I am just giving links and data that is current to NRC, this is the SAME info that the processors brief the applicants before they swear in, this is the same info that all OR's have to give applicants applying.

When a person is going to swear in the NRC processor goes and opens the service agreement on the link I sent, they fill out the blocks for the applicant and witnessing officer, then they print it, then they go through each part and explain to them what it all means and according to what I asked today if an applicant as what that part means about SWO qualification they are told "they go to a ship, they qualify SWO then they transfer to their IW or IP job".

It appears there is a BIG disconnect between the IDC community and NRC, here are the differences from what has been said here: IDC says 2 sea tours but NRC documentation (SA) says qualify pin then go to IW or IP job, PA says 3 years after designator change but SA says 2 years and the PA references the MILPERSMAN but it hasn't been updated to correct designators either.

Imagine being an applicant being briefed by an OR or processor on the SA, going to OCS, then finding out what you have been told is in conflict with what is happening to you.

I know you said what I put is bad gouge, and it may be if the IDC isn't updating NRC, but it is the gouge being given to applicants by the NRD's so it isn't bad gouge to them, it is correct from what they know.

I rec'd a response from the senior person I know in the IP field, basically there is no cut and dry path anymore, the response had words such as "normally" and "depends" but was said was basically the ideal path is after receiving the SWO pin they normally are wanted by the IW or IP community and go into an IW or IP job but that depends on manning so one individuals path may vary from another individuals path.

Just be prepared for anything and remember how hard it was to get selected and how many were not.

 

[MSAUZI101]

I agree with AZGUY, something doesn't smell right.

In order to to become officer of any branch you MUST be a U.S. Citizen (no waiver for that).At the time I was joining the Navy...I was a permanent resident (green card holder). For that case, not allowed to apply direct as officer. So I had 2 options, either wait for one year to become a citizen (i.e May 2013) or enlist first become a citizen right away, get security clearance and then apply for the OCS. Now I meet such qualification of citizenship..which was obstacle at that time. That's why ended to be a CS since few jobs in the Navy which do not require security clearance were available.

I'm 32 years old....have been working for so long in academic field as professor, researcher, writer/author. I've been working in non profit sector for over 5 years. I'm a director of Makulilo Scholarship Foundation, and was a director for Shukuru Foundation. I've been volunteering as consultant for college admissions and scholarships applicants from Developing Countries, Mediator, Language and Culture teacher for elementary school, high school etc.

I'll keep applying may be 2 more time. If not picked (Big loss for the Navy...not utilizing my potential). After my 4 years getting out...then joining other fields where my experience and background will be welcomed.

V/R

 

[MSAUZI101]

OK... And you're a CS3? There has to more to the story...

In order to to become officer of any branch you MUST be a U.S. Citizen (no waiver for that).At the time I was joining the Navy...I was a permanent resident (green card holder). For that case, not allowed to apply direct as officer. So I had 2 options, either wait for one year to become a citizen (i.e May 2013) or enlist first become a citizen right away, get security clearance and then apply for the OCS. Now I meet such qualification of citizenship..which was obstacle at that time. That's why ended to be a CS since few jobs in the Navy which do not require security clearance were available.
I'm 32 years old....have been working for so long in academic field as professor, researcher, writer/author. I've been working in non profit sector for over 5 years. I'm a director of Makulilo Scholarship Foundation, and was a director for Shukuru Foundation. I've been volunteering as consultant for college admissions and scholarships applicants from Developing Countries, Mediator, Language and Culture teacher for elementary school, high school etc.
I'll keep applying may be 2 more time. If not picked (Big loss for the Navy...not utilizing my potential). After my 4 years getting out...then joining other fields where my experience and background will be welcomed.
V/R

 

[MSAUZI101]

I agree with AZGUY, something doesn't smell right.

My old resume (not updated/recent) http://sandiego.academia.edu/makulilo/CurriculumVitae

 

[azguy]

In order to to become officer of any branch you MUST be a U.S. Citizen (no waiver for that).At the time I was joining the Navy...I was a permanent resident (green card holder). For that case, not allowed to apply direct as officer. So I had 2 options, either wait for one year to become a citizen (i.e May 2013) or enlist first become a citizen right away, get security clearance and then apply for the OCS. Now I meet such qualification of citizenship..which was obstacle at that time. That's why ended to be a CS since few jobs in the Navy which do not require security clearance were available.
I'm 32 years old....have been working for so long in academic field as professor, researcher, writer/author. I've been working in non profit sector for over 5 years. I'm a director of Makulilo Scholarship Foundation, and was a director for Shukuru Foundation. I've been volunteering as consultant for college admissions and scholarships applicants from Developing Countries, Mediator, Language and Culture teacher for elementary school, high school etc.
I'll keep applying may be 2 more time. If not picked (Big loss for the Navy...not utilizing my potential). After my 4 years getting out...then joining other fields where my experience and background will be welcomed.
V/R

Good luck to you - sounds like you really are being underutilized!

 

[egiv]

In order to to become officer of any branch you MUST be a U.S. Citizen (no waiver for that).At the time I was joining the Navy...I was a permanent resident (green card holder). For that case, not allowed to apply direct as officer. So I had 2 options, either wait for one year to become a citizen (i.e May 2013) or enlist first become a citizen right away, get security clearance and then apply for the OCS. Now I meet such qualification of citizenship..which was obstacle at that time. That's why ended to be a CS since few jobs in the Navy which do not require security clearance were available.
I'm 32 years old....have been working for so long in academic field as professor, researcher, writer/author. I've been working in non profit sector for over 5 years. I'm a director of Makulilo Scholarship Foundation, and was a director for Shukuru Foundation. I've been volunteering as consultant for college admissions and scholarships applicants from Developing Countries, Mediator, Language and Culture teacher for elementary school, high school etc.
I'll keep applying may be 2 more time. If not picked (Big loss for the Navy...not utilizing my potential). After my 4 years getting out...then joining other fields where my experience and background will be welcomed.
V/R

You enlisted in the Navy with the qualifications on that attached resume?

Not to sound harsh, but I have a hard time seeing you get a TS clearance and they very well might have rejected you knowing that, irregardless of your qualifications. They don't even let Americans who served in the Peace Corps get clearances because they spent too much time (2 years usually) with people who could potentially be considered enemies at some point.

In any case, good luck in the future, if not with the military then I'm sure you'd have options in DC.