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diverkr said:
I can appreciate your candid response, but I must know: What will you do when your obligated service isn't up, but the Navy decides to take you out of the cockpit and make you fly a desk?
Will you refuse to recruit any officer candidates because you signed up to be a pilot?
Will you tell the CO of the NROTC unit that teaching Naval Science and mentoring Middies is not one of your priorities?
Will you fail out of your graduate school program because the education is not required to be a pilot?
What if you have a mishap, or just have your annual physical, and it is determined that you are NPQ to fly again?
Or, in the short term, will you gaff off your day job (NATOPs Officer, Training Officer, etc.) because it takes away from your flying?
Don't mean to "preach," but especially now that you are in the Navy, you might want to take another look at what you elected to do with your life. The Navy is going to do with you what it sees fit, because the Navy doesn't care that you signed up just to be a pilot.
WannaBEaP3gal
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"...I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office upon which I am about to enter." .... sound familiar... so whether you gotta plan the squadron christmas party, fly your aircraft, or get switched up in the cockpit... you made that oath.
.You guys like to twist and manipulate what is said every which way you can. I am an officer, and I think it is a great position of which I accept full responsibility in whatever I am tasked. I know that flying is not everything, and I will not fly my whole career. I was just stating that I joined the Navy because I knew I could be a pilot. Since I love the Navy, I probably would have elected to stay in and join another community if I would have attrited from the aviation program.
I never said that I am going to neglect my collateral duties, or be a bad officer, just because flying is really important to me. I am fully aware of all the responsibilities that are required of an officer in the US Navy. I have no idea where your thoughts came from, KBayDog. Just for your peace of mind, I plan on fulfilling every obligation that I am given, whether it be recruiting other officers, flying a desk, or mentoring middies.
I never said that I am going to neglect my collateral duties, or be a bad officer, just because flying is really important to me. I am fully aware of all the responsibilities that are required of an officer in the US Navy. I have no idea where your thoughts came from, KBayDog. Just for your peace of mind, I plan on fulfilling every obligation that I am given, whether it be recruiting other officers, flying a desk, or mentoring middies.
diverkr said:
Here's where my thoughts came from:
diverkr said:
Sorry if you feel that I twisted your words. Seems pretty straight forward to me. Perhaps wording your posts a little better would cause less confusion?
In any event, in addition to my thoughts coming from what you wrote, they also come from a decade of experience. I have seen too many people be disappointed (and perform their jobs poorly) because they joined the military to do ____, but wound up doing ____ instead.
All in all I think we all get the point, its freakin hard to judge the character of someone by one response to a thread here on airwarriors. All of us who have been waiting for flight school know the many attitudes and the "how to be" or "how not to be" bullsh!t. KBay, I agree that he may have had his priorities out of whack with that pilot first, officer second type thing, but I think we get the picture. I won't lie and say I wouldn't have been hurt had I been told to go NFO out of API, those of us who dreamed of being pilots for many years to have it slip through your fingers....that sucks. I know many guys who love being NFOs, I am sure I would have loved it as well. But its all in the state of mind, all the uncertainty and freaking wishing and waiting for five years to have it all on the line in a couple of weeks during API. We all serve an equal purpose here as officers, and I am pretty sick of people just slamming others on their priorities and and stuff based off of quotes on airwarriors like you all are Gen. Patton or something.
And by the way Turn, you ever seen the mishap rate in the FA-18 community compared to that of the AV-8B? More lost A/C, more dead pilots.
And by the way Turn, you ever seen the mishap rate in the FA-18 community compared to that of the AV-8B? More lost A/C, more dead pilots.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ!.......(wakes up!)...oh are you guys done being little *****es yet? or can I go back to sleep?
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Person A: I feel this way!
Person B: you are in the wrong dude and you should quit!
A: No, you are in the wrong because you misunderstood me!
B: I am the highest moral response god and can squash you like the bug you are!
A: well I am the retort master and you must obey my every letter!
B: blah blah, you suck!
A: blah blah, you suck!
brd2881 said:
Of course they do. They fly more planes and more flight hours. That's like saying that the AFC East ran for more yards last season than Shaun Alexander. It's a meaningless comparison unless it's normalized.
If you normalize the numbers for total flight hours, the Harrier blows away every pointy-nosed aircraft in the service... here's an excerpt from an article posted a little while ago on this forum
So I stand by my Death Trap comment
beau said:
Person C: "Are you guys done being little *****es yet? Blah Blah, you suck."
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If you don't like what a particular member says, don't read his/her comments.
Or, better yet, become a moderator and lock every thread and block every member you disagree with.
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