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Question About Getting Flying Time

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othromas

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@othromos:

Not trying to debate the idea that there are guys w/ lots of hours coming through Primary, I was just curious about your case. FWIW, 1300 hours would be pretty low time for a brand new IP, let alone one that's been there for a while. Even so, sounds like the guy was definitely dedicated, and good on him.

I know what you're saying, no worries. From my perspective, 1300 hrs seems like a ton, regardless of the type of flying it is.
 

reapergm

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Prior flight time means squat in my opinion. I just saw a guy attrite out of helo's with over 1000 hours, and I know jet pilots who started from scratch at IFS. Dont waste your money on flight school. If you want to get a heads up, get into the books. Read about flight training in general. Learn about instrument training. Learn about anything your brain can absorb in general aviation. Once you get into Pensacola, you are going to have to learn to memorize a tankload of information in a seriously short amount of time. If you have a general understanding of how things work, you will be successful. They will teach you to fly, its up to you how you will study and learn.

Last bit of advice... work on getting through all the Marine training first. Plenty of guys who were "going to fly F-18s" had a hell of a hard time running through the Quantico woods and never made it to Pensacola. But dont worry, just tell your SI at OCS youre a pilot contract and he'll take it alittle easier on you. :tongue2_1
 

narfmasta

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Prior flight time means squat in my opinion. I just saw a guy attrite out of helo's with over 1000 hours, and I know jet pilots who started from scratch at IFS. Dont waste your money on flight school. If you want to get a heads up, get into the books. Read about flight training in general. Learn about instrument training. Learn about anything your brain can absorb in general aviation. Once you get into Pensacola, you are going to have to learn to memorize a tankload of information in a seriously short amount of time. If you have a general understanding of how things work, you will be successful. They will teach you to fly, its up to you how you will study and learn.

Last bit of advice... work on getting through all the Marine training first. Plenty of guys who were "going to fly F-18s" had a hell of a hard time running through the Quantico woods and never made it to Pensacola. But dont worry, just tell your SI at OCS youre a pilot contract and he'll take it alittle easier on you. :tongue2_1

I'm sorry if I was vague earlier in this thread, but this is what I was trying to get at from the beginning. I simply wanted to get flight time because I wanted to have a little bit of a head start on the information (gauges, traffic patterns, radio usage, etc.) so that way if they start throwing acronyms and all sorts of other things at me I will at least have an idea of what it is.

My main focus right now of course like you mentioned is getting through OCS first. I may be jumping ahead with all of these questions, but I'm simply trying to learn as much as I possibly can. Thank you again everyone for all of the responses!
 

Brett327

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I'm sorry if I was vague earlier in this thread, but this is what I was trying to get at from the beginning. I simply wanted to get flight time because I wanted to have a little bit of a head start on the information (gauges, traffic patterns, radio usage, etc.) so that way if they start throwing acronyms and all sorts of other things at me I will at least have an idea of what it is.

My main focus right now of course like you mentioned is getting through OCS first. I may be jumping ahead with all of these questions, but I'm simply trying to learn as much as I possibly can. Thank you again everyone for all of the responses!

If you resign yourself to the idea that there's no magic trick to doing well in flight school, you'll be much better off. They will teach you everything you need to know and give you the tools to succeed. It's how you handle those tools once they're in your hands that will determine how well you do. I agree w/ Reaper 100%.

Brett
 

A4sForever

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Prior flight time means squat in my opinion. I just saw a guy attrite out of helo's with over 1000 hours, and I know jet pilots who started from scratch at IFS. Dont waste your money on flight school.....
^ Double ditto ... we've had this discussion a few times over the past few years --- and while some will disagree and others will cite examples of why prior time helps ... I still maintain that "prior flight time" will help you very little --- very, very little --- and that's based on my own experience and that of hundreds of Fleet contemporaries and STUDs .... civilian and military ... and you can believe it or you can ignore it. :)

And for the record; when it comes to "memorization" : I'm not too impressed with the concept once you're out of initial ground school(s) and the written tests are behind you -- whatever stage of training you're in --- but especially when you get a stick and throttle in your hands.

Simple examples from a simple mind:

Military --- I tried to memorize on the ground like everyone else --- but I learned in the air --- fast --- while others continued to memorize procedures and limitations on the ground much better than I ever could. What was the overall result??? In grades and seat assignments and Fleet performance --- by any yardstick you choose to measure with --- they didn't do as well as I did ... :)

Civilian --- much the same story --- as I tried to "understand" why things worked --- systems, procedures, operating the aircraft, etc., how it all interrelated --- vice the "memorization" approach off a 2-dimensional piece of paper. The guys who "memorized" usually broke down or at least didn't do as well when the shit hit the fan --- for "real" in emergencies, in everyday line flying, in decision making, or just trying to get it done in the simulator.

I didn't study for a check-ride for the last 15 years of my airline career -- never cracked a book except for the FAA type ratings. As it turned out ... even that concession to memorization was unnecessary. Why??? Experience was part of it, to be sure .... but it was because I'd kept up with all of it on a day to day basis and "learned it" --- cold --- in everyday operations.

Personally, I found that's a much better system and a much better approach to successfully flying an aircraft.

Believe that .... ;)
 

bunk22

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I'll just tack on that most of the guys I've known who were either at the top of their class and/or got jets did not have prior flight time. You don't need prior flight time to make it through the program and do well at the same time. I did relatively well in flight school and though I had about 30 hours of civilian time (that helped maybe with initial radio comms and taxiing), I really had no experience. Worry about other things for now, making it through OCS, TBS, getting laid, etc.
 

phrogpilot73

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Three words, words which prior to marriage I lived by....GO UGLY EARLY....works nearly everytime :D
Words that I used to live by at one point in my life as well... Of course, how embarassing is it when it DOESN'T work. No bigger blow to the ego in my mind...
 

bunk22

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Words that I used to live by at one point in my life as well... Of course, how embarassing is it when it DOESN'T work. No bigger blow to the ego in my mind...

When the ugly, fat chick turns you down......it's a bad night :eek:
 

Steve Wilkins

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I'm sorry if I was vague earlier in this thread, but this is what I was trying to get at from the beginning. I simply wanted to get flight time because I wanted to have a little bit of a head start on the information (gauges, traffic patterns, radio usage, etc.) so that way if they start throwing acronyms and all sorts of other things at me I will at least have an idea of what it is.

My main focus right now of course like you mentioned is getting through OCS first. I may be jumping ahead with all of these questions, but I'm simply trying to learn as much as I possibly can. Thank you again everyone for all of the responses!
No vagueries. You were listening to daddy and grandpa. It sounds like you may now actually be taking this stuff onboard and understanding that we're not a bunch of complete idiots around here. Personally, I think you should go get your pilot's license. That way, once you're in the training pipeline, you can come back here and confirm for us what has already been hashed out at least a dozen times over the last 8 years this site has been up.
 
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