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Road to 350: What Does the US Navy Do Anyway?

Randy Daytona

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A few good articles from the WSJ and CSIS. China’s government invested and subsidized $132B into their shipyards in the 2010’s. The US went with the free market and instead spent over $1T in Afghanistan.

The result: China now has 230x the shipbuilding capacity of the US.



 

BigRed389

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A few good articles from the WSJ and CSIS. China’s government invested and subsidized $132B into their shipyards in the 2010’s. The US went with the free market and instead spent over $1T in Afghanistan.

The result: China now has 230x the shipbuilding capacity of the US.



But I thought government spending never works!?
 

wink

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Government spending or government investment? There is a significant difference.
Significant? Are we talking in results, intent or goals? Money I could have "spent" on a new truck, or vacation I have "invested" in various financial instruments, and lost money. Would have been better spending it in Tuscany or the Cote d Azure versus watching numbers on paper deflating. Yep, big difference. :) The government makes bad investments too.
 

Randy Daytona

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With the tanker accident in the news, a couple of good articles on the importance of auxiliaries.



and for those who haven’t seen it, a proposal to drastically reduce Chinese shipping to US ports:

 

Brett327

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With the tanker accident in the news, a couple of good articles on the importance of auxiliaries.



and for those who haven’t seen it, a proposal to drastically reduce Chinese shipping to US ports:

Nothing from Konrad can really be considered a “good article.”
 

Randy Daytona

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Nothing from Konrad can really be considered a “good article.”
Just out of curiosity, what did you and Bad Karma find objectionable, misleading or patently false?

Anyway, another article on logistics:


The median age of the 46 Roll-on/Roll-off ships we use to surge from the continental United States is 47 years; 14 of the 46 ships are 50 years old or older,"

These purchases would offset the built-in decline in capability as the fleet ages out: 30 sealift ships are on track to decommission by 2034,
 

Randy Daytona

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Have you ever interacted with him on Twitter? He’s a deeply troubled individual. Most of the content on his site is stolen and repackaged.
Not everybody has a Twitter account, so no, I have never interacted with him. With 2 little kids, I am lucky if I have time for ship photo of the day here - although I do make as much time as I can to listen to naval history.

As for the articles, I thought both showed real world issues, and the historical consequences of not having enough logistics.

We have a shipbuilding crisis that accelerated when Reagan and the Republicans got rid of tariffs / subsidies. We have not only lost most of the infrastructure and the workforce, but it appears we no longer have the institutional knowledge of how to build warships at scale. This is reminiscent of the degradation of the German surface fleet from WW1 to WW2.
 

Brett327

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Not everybody has a Twitter account, so no, I have never interacted with him. With 2 little kids, I am lucky if I have time for ship photo of the day here - although I do make as much time as I can to listen to naval history.

As for the articles, I thought both showed real world issues, and the historical consequences of not having enough logistics.

We have a shipbuilding crisis that accelerated when Reagan and the Republicans got rid of tariffs / subsidies. We have not only lost most of the infrastructure and the workforce, but it appears we no longer have the institutional knowledge of how to build warships at scale. This is reminiscent of the degradation of the German surface fleet from WW1 to WW2.
Let me restate my position then. Konrad’s content is perfect for someone like you.
 
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