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Roger Ball, good and not-so-good questions about the world of "Paddles"
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How 'bout 12 hours on the platform?? Is there any 'sugar' left over for LSO's ...
Schnugg said:
How 'bout 12 hours on the platform?? Is there any 'sugar' left over for LSO's ...
How 'bout 12 hours on the platform?? Is there any 'sugar' left over for LSO's ...
Odd...I don't recall suffering at all watching the PLAT as a RR Qual'd LSO???
A little sugar for Paddles
080324-N-3659B-190 PACIFIC OCEAN (March 24, 2008) Landing signal officers watch as an F/A-18 Hornet makes an arrested landing on the flight deck of the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76). Ronald Reagan and embarked Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 14 are conducting routine carrier operations. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Joseph M. Buliavac (Released)
080222-N-2984R-073 PERSIAN GULF (Feb. 22, 2007) Landing signal officers (LSO) go through the final approach procedures prior to recovering an aircraft during flight operations aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). LSO are naval aviators tasked with the rigorous job of safely recovering fixed wing aircraft onto the carrier flight deck. Truman and embarked Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 3 are underway on a scheduled deployment in support of Operations Iraqi Freedom, Enduring Freedom and maritime security operations. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Ricardo J. Reyes (Released)
080111-N-2880M-145 ARABIAN GULF (Jan. 11, 2008) Lt. Andy Shulman, a Landing Signal Officer (LSO) assigned to Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 3, observes flight operations from the LSO platform as an F/A-18 Hornet attempts to complete an arrested recovery on the flight deck of the Nimitz-class nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). Truman and embarked CVW-3 are on a scheduled deployment in support of Operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom and maritime security operations. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Joshua A. Moore (Released)
070917-N-8923M-049 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Sept. 17, 2007) - Landing signal officers (LSOs) watch from the LSO platform as an aircraft passes over the flight deck during flight operations aboard Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). Truman is underway in the Atlantic Ocean conducting carrier qualifications. U.S. Navy photo by Seaman Kevin T. Murray Jr. (Released)
070709-N-2984R-003 ATLANTIC OCEAN (July 9, 2007) - A landing signal officer watches as an F/A-18C Hornet, assigned to "The Raging Bulls" of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 37, approaches the flight deck during flight operations on board Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). Truman is underway in the Atlantic Ocean participating in the Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMTUEX) in preparation for deployment to the Persian Gulf. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Ricardo J. Reyes (RELEASED)
070115-N-5345W-079 Atlantic Ocean (Jan. 15, 2007) - Landing signal officers (LSOs) watch closely from the LSO platform as an F/A-18F Super Hornet assigned to the "Red Rippers" of Strike Fighter Squadron One One (VFA-11) prepares to touch down on the flight deck of the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). Truman is currently underway conducting flight deck certifications in the Atlantic Ocean. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Kristopher Wilson (RELEASED)
How 'bout 12 hours on the platform?? Is there any 'sugar' left over for LSO's ...
080324-N-3659B-190 PACIFIC OCEAN (March 24, 2008) Landing signal officers watch as an F/A-18 Hornet makes an arrested landing on the flight deck of the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Ronald Reagan (CVN 76). Ronald Reagan and embarked Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 14 are conducting routine carrier operations. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Joseph M. Buliavac (Released)
080222-N-2984R-073 PERSIAN GULF (Feb. 22, 2007) Landing signal officers (LSO) go through the final approach procedures prior to recovering an aircraft during flight operations aboard the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). LSO are naval aviators tasked with the rigorous job of safely recovering fixed wing aircraft onto the carrier flight deck. Truman and embarked Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 3 are underway on a scheduled deployment in support of Operations Iraqi Freedom, Enduring Freedom and maritime security operations. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Ricardo J. Reyes (Released)
080111-N-2880M-145 ARABIAN GULF (Jan. 11, 2008) Lt. Andy Shulman, a Landing Signal Officer (LSO) assigned to Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 3, observes flight operations from the LSO platform as an F/A-18 Hornet attempts to complete an arrested recovery on the flight deck of the Nimitz-class nuclear-powered aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). Truman and embarked CVW-3 are on a scheduled deployment in support of Operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom and maritime security operations. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Joshua A. Moore (Released)
070917-N-8923M-049 ATLANTIC OCEAN (Sept. 17, 2007) - Landing signal officers (LSOs) watch from the LSO platform as an aircraft passes over the flight deck during flight operations aboard Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). Truman is underway in the Atlantic Ocean conducting carrier qualifications. U.S. Navy photo by Seaman Kevin T. Murray Jr. (Released)
070709-N-2984R-003 ATLANTIC OCEAN (July 9, 2007) - A landing signal officer watches as an F/A-18C Hornet, assigned to "The Raging Bulls" of Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 37, approaches the flight deck during flight operations on board Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). Truman is underway in the Atlantic Ocean participating in the Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMTUEX) in preparation for deployment to the Persian Gulf. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Ricardo J. Reyes (RELEASED)
070115-N-5345W-079 Atlantic Ocean (Jan. 15, 2007) - Landing signal officers (LSOs) watch closely from the LSO platform as an F/A-18F Super Hornet assigned to the "Red Rippers" of Strike Fighter Squadron One One (VFA-11) prepares to touch down on the flight deck of the Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75). Truman is currently underway conducting flight deck certifications in the Atlantic Ocean. U.S. Navy photo by Mass Communication Specialist 3rd Class Kristopher Wilson (RELEASED)
THANK GOD FOR LSO's PIX
Great stuff -- you can almost feel "the rush" ...
Some things strike me:
1. What IS all that shit on/around the platform ?? The guys can hardly see the aircraft !!! The wind screen is bad enough, but I think we've achieved a manifestation of the Peter Principle w/ regards to LSO platform arrangement & design.
2. WA-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-A-AYY too many bodies on the platform. They get in the way, block the view, stumble over one another, and in extremis -- the road to the net will NEVER sustain all the traffic nor the weight.
3. They clones-dress like Orwellian cyborgs .
To wit:
ROGER BALL !!!
LSO's
Ah yes, the LSO's. .
(gratuitously stolen from Neptunus Lex)
Ah yes, the LSO's. .
(gratuitously stolen from Neptunus Lex)
Sorry, Eddie, that question crosses the line Nose's thread designed for such questions. Follow the link and you'll get your answer(s)!
I thought it was pretty sophisticated for a wannabe considering they usually require completely different airframes and career paths!!
I thought it was pretty sophisticated for a wannabe considering they usually require completely different airframes and career paths!!
How many more years are you going to be in Wannabe status? Isnt it shit or get off the pot time very soon?
Smiles as appropriate
Here's a dumb question for those of us not Tailhook Navy (or Marine Corps). What the hell does final sound like at the boat? I've only read some stuff on the internet, which says it goes something like:
ATC: "205, call the ball"
205: "205, Tomcat Ball, 3.5" (3.5 being thousands of pounds of fuel)
ATC: "Roger ball"
Is this even remotely correct, or could someone give the proper play by play?
How many different controllers are there (example: normally there is Center/approach/Tower/GCA etc for land ATC and varying for IFR/VFR recovery)? When do you get handed off to the LSO?
ATC: "205, call the ball"
205: "205, Tomcat Ball, 3.5" (3.5 being thousands of pounds of fuel)
ATC: "Roger ball"
Is this even remotely correct, or could someone give the proper play by play?
How many different controllers are there (example: normally there is Center/approach/Tower/GCA etc for land ATC and varying for IFR/VFR recovery)? When do you get handed off to the LSO?
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
You are going P3s BS.. No need to concern yourself with this.
Start memorizing how many coils are in the spring the holds the p7.5 bleed valve shut and at what PSIA it opens. :icon_smil
Start memorizing how many coils are in the spring the holds the p7.5 bleed valve shut and at what PSIA it opens. :icon_smil
That's a pretty much right ball call, except CATCC will say, "2XX, 3/4 of a mile, call the ball," the pilot/WSO will respond with what you said, and Paddles will be the one saying "Roger, ball," sometimes with the winds added in if they're a factor.
Keeping in mind, that's only during a Case III recovery. Day/Case I is normally "ziplip". Everyone builds the stack overhead visually, then they go for it in order (in theory, at least). Break at the bow and turn downwind just like at the field (but way shit-hotter). A quick flash of the waveoff lights serves as a "roger, ball" call from Paddles once you're on final.
(Paddles, please feel free to correct or augment...I'm just a Hawkeye window-licker, after all)
CATCC has Approach/Departure and Tower (the Air Boss), serving the same functions as their dirtside counterparts, more or less. Once Departure has you "sweet and sweet," you're handed off to a civil ATC if you're in their airspace, a warfare controller, the Hawkeye, whatever.
In Case III recoveries, add Marshal, who build and control the marshal stack. You then get handed off to a final controller who's just like a GCA controller, with normally two controllers alternating guys coming down the chute. So Plane 1 goes to Final A, Plane 2 to Final B, Plane 3 to Final A, etc etc. Handed off to Paddles at 3/4 mile.
Thanks!