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I can't speak to the potential for a future drawdown in WSOs, but at least up here in Growler land I don't see the EWO going anywhere anytime soon. We're in the process of standing up two additional squadrons, and the position is pretty essential to our mission. Most of the Prowler guys whose timing worked out have found a seat in a Growler.
I'd be legitimately interested to see how the Marines plan on executing the EA mission single seat though. It'd be pretty busy for one guy.
It supposed to be off-site control.
But did those numbers include the Air Force and Marines? Just curious...
Any idea what they are going to call/designate the squadrons?
No AF but it included Marines.
The last I heard was 143 and 144, but I haven't heard anything on mascots/nicknames yet.
I am disappointed to hear they aren't going to go with 128, my old squadron. Pretty cool patch and a nice 'lineage' though unofficial since a squadron can't be 'reactivated' in the Navy officially. The VAQ-33 'Firebirds' would be pretty cool too. I just hope they aren't going with the 143 patch and logo they tried when that unit almost came into being 10 years ago, the 'Cobras' with their orange and blue patch was pretty 'bleah' to me.
I am still baffled why the Navy is the only service that doesn't let units get deactivated then reactivated, even the USAF has a better job keeping its unit history alive with their squadrons.
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I thought 137 went away at one point in the 90s (as evidenced by the tombstone they dug up from the O Club and kept in their RR). Anyhow, from the documents I've read, I don't think anything is quite set in stone yet.I am disappointed to hear they aren't going to go with 128, my old squadron. Pretty cool patch and a nice 'lineage' though unofficial since a squadron can't be 'reactivated' in the Navy officially. The VAQ-33 'Firebirds' would be pretty cool too. I just hope they aren't going with the 143 patch and logo they tried when that unit almost came into being 10 years ago, the 'Cobras' with their orange and blue patch was pretty 'bleah' to me.
I am still baffled why the Navy is the only service that doesn't let units get deactivated then reactivated, even the USAF has a better job keeping its unit history alive with their squadrons.
Either they make exceptions; or it's a relatively new rule. I recall VA-55 f'lying A-4F Skyhawks at the time, was disestablished in 1975. At the time, ended a lineage dating back to Torpedo Squadron VT-5 in WWII.
VA-55 rose from the dead in 1983, and reactivated as an A-6B Intruder Squadron, retaining the name "Warhorses", the same patch & callsign GARFISH. VA-55 again was deactivated in 1991.
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According to the regs we researched when my squadron was shutting down the Navy doesn't officially 'reactivate' squadrons, unless they have changed the regs/rules since then but I haven't seen it. Once a squadron is disestablished in the Navy its history ends and if another squadron is established with the same number, insignia and name then it officially has no affiliation or lineage to the old one. This doesn't new keep squadrons from claiming an old squadron's heritage, much like VF-103 did after they took over the 'Jolly Roger' insignia and name when VF-84 shut down, but there is nothing official like there is in the other services. It is a small but important distinction, especially to us amateur historians
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Notorious Nate
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Did the Navy not just reactivate VFA-101? I thought the Grim Reapers died out with the F-14, but now they're back with the F-35.
Read what I said above, unless the regs have recently changed the squadron was not 'officially' reactivated since the Navy doesn't allow it.
halfbreed83
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I worked with that squadron back in 2002 when they were transition to civilian workers (the maintainers), that was an awesome squadron.