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SWO vs Supply, Pros and Cons: Decisions Decisions

swerdna

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My understanding is that it is senior supply officers the Navy has trouble retaining due to opportunities outside in the civilian sector.

Are you sure it's not retirement that's causing retention problems? :icon_wink
 

navy09

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That should tell you something about the communities if the SWOs are offered $75K while Supply doesn't have a retention bonus (that I'm aware of).

What a stupid post. Seriously???

All URL communities that I know of give bonuses to retain officers after their initial obligation. SWO, Subs, Aviation, and SEALs for sure do. It's a standard practice.

@tiz: According to the SWO community brief, they're in the red for officers at the O5 and O6 levels. My guess is that it's a Navy wide problem. Senior military officers are highly sought after in the private sector. That's that a supply-specific thing man.

This is like the twilight zone. In all of the dozens of pitches I've heard for every community out there, I've never heard someone pitch Supply like this.
 

BigRed389

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I imagine EWOS is electronic warfare, but what does Strike actually do if somebody else is running the AEGIS, "fire ze missiles?"

Also, who (from SWO-JO land) gets to go to VBSS school?

Ship gets a Tomahawk launch order, basically put such and such missiles at point A by this time. While you're at it try not to fly over shipping in the area, and don't violate airspace to the endpoint.

STRIKE(or whoever is the ECO) plans out how to get the missile from the ship to that point with those constraints. From there, the mission package that was uploaded to the missile takes over and it does its thing. In other words, we really have no idea what we're shooting at specifically.

It's complicated to explain who really "runs" AEGIS...there are a lot of players(lot of enlisted watchstanders) involved with the different roles, but the JO overall responsible for the hardware would be the Fire Control Officer.

VBSS is pretty much on a volunteer basis. You're required to have at least 2fully qualified BOs, and the BO is typically going to be an O-1/2. An E-6/7 can do it too if necessary. The real hard part would be convincing your chain of command that they can afford to let you go TAD for about 1.5 months of training...so you should show good progress on quals before that.
 

navy09

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I thought you had to get your deck letter to be a BO. I've heard of Chiefs doing it, so I don't know how accurate it is. Can an ENS just show up and go to VBSS school before he's qual'd?
 

Thisguy

Pain-in-the-dick
What a stupid post. Seriously???

All URL communities that I know of give bonuses to retain officers after their initial obligation. SWO, Subs, Aviation, and SEALs for sure do. It's a standard practice.

My bad. I bow to your vast fleet experience and community knowledge.

Come back after you've done a couple deployments and you'll understand those retention bonuses a little better.
 

swerdna

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It's complicated to explain who really "runs" AEGIS...there are a lot of players(lot of enlisted watchstanders) involved with the different roles, but the JO overall responsible for the hardware would be the Fire Control Officer.

FCO mainly just oversees Aegis maintenance. The people who actually run it are the Aegis techs...SPY, FCS, Computer, and Display. It's high profile so the CO and CSO are always asking about it.

I guess it's run like most other Weapon Systems; a team effort.
 

swerdna

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My bad. I bow to your vast fleet experience and community knowledge.

Come back after you've done a couple deployments and you'll understand those retention bonuses a little better.

I've done several deployments and I've never heard Supply talked up this much, not by Officers or Enlisted.

High bonuses go to challenging, undermanned (normally) jobs. Supply is a much smaller community; nothing compared to SWO. What doesn't make sense is some people are saying that it's hard to keep Supply guys in because of a demand in the Civilian world, and at the same time saying that Supply doesn't have a high bonus. I'm guessing this is because retention levels are high? So are people getting out or are they staying in?
 

nab4gsu

New Member
Hey, new to the board. Looks like I'm in the same boat (pardon the pun) as the rest of you guys. I'm up for the Feb board and my top 3 choices were SWO, Intel, and Supply. I don't think I'll be getting into Intel, don't have the grades or OAR score, so it'll most likely some down to SWO and Supply. My Recruiting officer pushed me towards supply heavily but I wanted SWO as my first choice because it gave me more of an oppurtunity to make it into Intel or another field. And it just sounds more exciting. While if you are Supply you usually just remain in Supply and sit behind a desk. Although if I did Supply, going to school in Athens wouldn't be so bad. I live 45 minutes away from Athens, I recently graduated from Georgia Southern, I spent many a weekend in Athens and have a few friends there. I hear Suppos can make quite a bit of money when they get out, what kind of industries/companies look for navy supply officers?
 

The Renegade

LT, SC, USN
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^^Ditto!
nab4gsu said:
Hey, new to the board. Looks like I'm in the same boat (pardon the pun) as the rest of you guys. I'm up for the Feb board and my top 3 choices were SWO, Intel, and Supply. I don't think I'll be getting into Intel, don't have the grades or OAR score, so it'll most likely some down to SWO and Supply. My Recruiting officer pushed me towards supply heavily but I wanted SWO as my first choice because it gave me more of an oppurtunity to make it into Intel or another field. And it just sounds more exciting. While if you are Supply you usually just remain in Supply and sit behind a desk. Although if I did Supply, going to school in Athens wouldn't be so bad. I live 45 minutes away from Athens, I recently graduated from Georgia Southern, I spent many a weekend in Athens and have a few friends there. I hear Suppos can make quite a bit of money when they get out, what kind of industries/companies look for navy supply officers?

Someone, anyone… please kill it, it just keep getting bigger :eek:.
 

snizo

Supply Officer
Hey, new to the board. Looks like I'm in the same boat (pardon the pun) as the rest of you guys. I'm up for the Feb board and my top 3 choices were SWO, Intel, and Supply. I don't think I'll be getting into Intel, don't have the grades or OAR score, so it'll most likely some down to SWO and Supply. My Recruiting officer pushed me towards supply heavily but I wanted SWO as my first choice because it gave me more of an oppurtunity to make it into Intel or another field. And it just sounds more exciting. While if you are Supply you usually just remain in Supply and sit behind a desk. Although if I did Supply, going to school in Athens wouldn't be so bad. I live 45 minutes away from Athens, I recently graduated from Georgia Southern, I spent many a weekend in Athens and have a few friends there. I hear Suppos can make quite a bit of money when they get out, what kind of industries/companies look for navy supply officers?

Take a look back through the pages of this thread. Some good info here (some bad info here, too, so take with a grain of salt).

Bottom line - supply folks don't just sit behind a desk. In fact, of all the staff corps jobs, we spend the most time doing operational stuff. Lots of money to be had as a civilian with supply corps experience in the business/finance areas of any industry. Supply School in Athens is closing and moving to Newport (I think early 2010?). If you've got anything specific for supply, shoot me a PM.
 
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