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The end of NATO?

Hotdogs

I don’t care if I hurt your feelings
pilot
As with the one mentioned by @CommodoreMid the outcome in all three cases is the right one. The protest is fine, just be willing to accept what’s coming.

Violently disagree. If you got a problem with the NCA, POTUS, or COC personally or by policy - STFU and resign quietly. Don't squeal like a little b*tch because you didn't get your way and set a horrible example for your subordinates. We don't need a politized military and further degrade the western liberal order anymore.
 

ChuckMK23

Standing by for the RIF !
pilot
They’re blaming the trade war Trump started with China, but make no mistake, this can be traced back to origins with abrupt USAID cuts and contracts they broke with American farmers. I and others predicted this would be necessary.

How are those DOGE “savings” looking now?



April 9 will go down as the biggest day of insider trading in history.
 

number9

Well-Known Member
Contributor
Violently disagree. If you got a problem with the NCA, POTUS, or COC personally or by policy - STFU and resign quietly. Don't squeal like a little b*tch because you didn't get your way and set a horrible example for your subordinates. We don't need a politized military and further degrade the western liberal order anymore.
10/10, great shitpost. You almost had me fooled.
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
pilot
Contributor
Violently disagree. If you got a problem with the NCA, POTUS, or COC personally or by policy - STFU and resign quietly. Don't squeal like a little b*tch because you didn't get your way and set a horrible example for your subordinates. We don't need a politized military and further degrade the western liberal order anymore.
Just to be clear, I am talking about the outcome (getting fired) not the actions (speaking out). With reference to their actions, I agree. Shut your mouth and submit your papers to get out.
 

Spekkio

He bowls overhand.
Just to be clear, I am talking about the outcome (getting fired) not the actions (speaking out). With reference to their actions, I agree. Shut your mouth and submit your papers to get out.
NAL, but my understanding is that 99% of the GCM cases are DOA. The definition of contemptuous has a high bar.

Not anything I'd ever want to go through, but chances are good that they beat the charges and keep their pensions.
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
pilot
Contributor
I think it I’d important to remember that the current administration is threatening violence against one of our NATO allies in order to grab their territory.

That is fucked up. It is ok to call it that.
For you and I, yes. For senior leaders it must (and should) be discussed with the administration in private meetings, not on a public forum.
 

sevenhelmet

Quaint ideas from yesteryear
pilot
For you and I, yes. For senior leaders it must (and should) be discussed with the administration in private meetings, not on a public forum.
Except it isn’t. The emperor is told his clothes are wonderful, beautiful, the best ever, and anyone saying anything contrary to that- privately or otherwise- is fired.

The concepts of debate and consensus are out the window, and anyone who thinks Trump isn’t living in the world’s cushiest echo chamber is only fooling themselves.

There is no moral or ethical high ground to be captured, it’s simply bolster his vanity and personal gain, or GTFO.
 

taxi1

Well-Known Member
pilot
For you and I, yes. For senior leaders it must (and should) be discussed with the administration in private meetings, not on a public forum.
The treaty with NATO was ratified by the Senate and is now enforceable law within the United States, as per the Constitution. The idea of threatening our treaty partner with violence in order to grab their land…in accordance with the NATO treaty if they are attacked we are bound by our laws to come to their defense.

Why isn’t this a bigger WTF moment?
 

sevenhelmet

Quaint ideas from yesteryear
pilot
The treaty with NATO was ratified by the Senate and is now enforceable law within the United States, as per the Constitution. The idea of threatening our treaty partner with violence in order to grab their land…in accordance with the NATO treaty if they are attacked we are bound by our laws to come to their defense.

Why isn’t this a bigger WTF moment?

Because they “flooded the zone”, and are doing everything they can to discourage debate.

Ideas so good, they aren’t allowed to be questioned.
 

Spekkio

He bowls overhand.
The treaty with NATO was ratified by the Senate and is now enforceable law within the United States, as per the Constitution. The idea of threatening our treaty partner with violence in order to grab their land…in accordance with the NATO treaty if they are attacked we are bound by our laws to come to their defense.

Why isn’t this a bigger WTF moment?
Because there's Constitional ambiguity about enforcing said treaty.
 

Brett327

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