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The SHOW: Airlines still a "good gig"??

JTS11

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor

Is there SOP on how to handle something like this? I know it's a rare occurrence.

Are there curtains that can be drawn as aircrew pull an unconscious pilot from the cockpit and attempt CPR, or is it just out in the open for PAX to see?

Then, does the aircrew wait until they're on deck to relay what is happening, or is it open kimono while airborne?
 

ChuckMK23

FERS and TSP contributor!
pilot
I drive a 2003 Mercedes wagon that i got for free, as my “airport car”. No chance my e30 M3 (or future 964 carrera) ever makes a trip to that employee lot :)
Diesel fueled with used cooking oil from the local Waffle House?
 

HuggyU2

Well-Known Member
None
Is there SOP on how to handle something like this? I know it's a rare occurrence.
If it happens to the Captain, the FO should yell "Get the fuck out of MY seat!"

Yes there are SOPs for this. And no one dies inflight, normally. They are "incapacitated".

In a nutshell, get them away from the controls. Get the pilot out of the cockpit to render prolonged first aid. This will take time since you must ensure the security of the cockpit the entire time. Onboard doctors or the FAs can render first aid.

Get a deadheading pilot to join you in the cockpit, or a flight attendant if no pilots are in the cabin.
 

TacticalTater

Well-Known Member
None
If it happens to the Captain, the FO should yell "Get the fuck out of MY seat!"

Yes there are SOPs for this. And no one dies inflight, normally. They are "incapacitated".

In a nutshell, get them away from the controls. Get the pilot out of the cockpit to render prolonged first aid. This will take time since you must ensure the security of the cockpit the entire time. Onboard doctors or the FAs can render first aid.

Get a deadheading pilot to join you in the cockpit, or a flight attendant if no pilots are in the cabin.

I thought the old joke was, "you check the seniority list" at least that's how it was at Northwest. 😁
 

taxi1

Well-Known Member
pilot

Is there SOP on how to handle something like this? I know it's a rare occurrence.

Are there curtains that can be drawn as aircrew pull an unconscious pilot from the cockpit and attempt CPR, or is it just out in the open for PAX to see?

Then, does the aircrew wait until they're on deck to relay what is happening, or is it open kimono while airborne?
I wonder how many hours he was dead before they realized it.
 

sevenhelmet

Low calorie attack from the Heartland
pilot
Is the expectation that the CA always buys dinner? Or is that just when you’re a FO in year 1?
 

dustydog

Registered User
pilot
At least at my airline, there is no expectation per se but most captains take care of first year guys. I always try to buy, at a minimum, drinks and dinner at least once on a trip no matter how senior the FO is.
 

MIDNJAC

is clara ship
pilot
Is the expectation that the CA always buys dinner? Or is that just when you’re a FO in year 1?

Varies from place to place. Like dusty said (and I work somewhere different), no expectation at all, but it wasn't uncommon during year 1, especially on those first IOE trips.
 

JTS11

Well-Known Member
pilot
Contributor
I wonder how many hours he was dead before they realized it.
My only frame of reference was getting a NALO flight for an ADVON in a Navy C-12...and, at some point, looking fwd to see the dude in the left seat passed out, hanging in the straps (dead?), and the guy in the right seat with a full newspaper spread out in front of his face (occasionally peering over the top of the paper to scan the gauges).

We didn't care, we were going on a good deal and I guess this is how things work. 😆

Edit: just to be clear we all knew that little short fucker was hungover.
 
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Flash

SEVAL/ECMO
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Super Moderator
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My only frame of reference was getting a NALO flight for an ADVON in a Navy C-12...and, at some point, looking fwd to see the dude in the left seat passed out, hanging in the straps (dead?), and the guy in the right seat with a full newspaper spread out in front of his face (occasionally peering over the top of the paper to scan the gauges).

Walked up to the cockpit of the T-43 on one of my first training flights to find both pilots with their faces buried in the paper, that didn't inspire a lot of confidence in a Nav student.

T-43:

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