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The SHOW: Airlines still a "good gig"??

zippy

zippy

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MIDNJAC said:
Yeah, I have no intention of moving left until I could hold a decent line. Our reserve CAs get beat down hard.

Other potential, but less common reasons, are medical (can fly with second class in the FO seat here, don't need first class), and there are a few folks who failed their first try at upgrading, and probably aren't willing to risk a second failure, which would generally mean their termination as an employee.
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The left seat is as hard as you make it… if you’re someone who can do your job and make decisions its not much harder than being an FO (just know where to look stuff up in the FM/FOM). There are plenty of CAs who go out of their way to do lots of other peoples jobs and solve other peoples problem and make the job so much more stressful than it needs to be.

Most people who fail upgrade can’t make decisions (either appropriately or timely). This not usually a problem for someone who has been an aircraft commander in the military.
 
SynixMan

SynixMan

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Once you've got your number at your destination, it's a choose your own adventure. Barring the unforeseen, you should only have to be junior once by choice. WB, NB, CA, FO, etc. I'm happy United had to raise the bar on QoL for reserve to entice CA bidders and that spreads across the industry.
 
MIDNJAC

MIDNJAC

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To be clear, I think zippy is commenting on my note that some bottom feeders (most likely civilian only guys and gals) failed to upgrade. Don’t think anyone is disputing that captaining is super hard. It is however, highly highly undesirable when you’d be >90% in category upon upgrade. No chance i mess around with that
 
Python

Python

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Hair Warrior said:
What are avg salaries at majors? Ballpark $250k for FO and $400k for Captain?
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Tons of variables but those are reliable common numbers. And those numbers don’t include the 401K contributions on top (Direct Contribution, not a match).

The more important question is how much does one work at the majors :cool:
 
MIDNJAC

MIDNJAC

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Fallonflyr said:
For me, usually 18-20 days off a month on the international wide body. Also 2 months of vacation off a year. Doesn’t suck.
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My Nov is 19 days off. Thanksgiving week entirely off. Domestic though. Although I have a toronto overnight, which maybe means it is international narrowbody? :) @Hair Warrior Pay is $205/hr, at yr 3 FO. Which is somewhere around that number x1000 at the end of the year for total pay. That being said, I fly probably half my normal airline schedule due to reserve stuff. Which pays about the same as an O-5 as my airline seniority, without the same tax burden. So that is a wash. I have a third part time job that makes me paid better than our top of scale captains though. You always want to have a plan B at a minimum, and (for me) a plan C as well.
 
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