Voluntary Separation Pay

[bunk22]

If the outcome is anything with a B you are redisgnated as a 130X which is not considered a career path and ergo not eligible for promotion.

Didn't know that. Makes sense.

 

[Hozer]

irad

we just lost three last week:
-a 1305 with 17 years, 10 mos and some change (i.e. 1.5 mos from "sanctuary")
-a 24 year ATO LDO (but only 7 years commissioned time, so can't retire as an "O")
-a nugget shooter on his first dis-sea who left the squadron early

all told by CO they will be out by Sep...
tough times ahead...
best community is helos -see adhsb results...
vp in trouble...

 

[HooverPilot]

Not good news. Did these guys not make the window for VSP?

 

[Hozer]

vsep

Yeah, they offered the 1305 something like 90k. A bargain for the gov't vs. retirement + benefits...
the LDO has to retire as an "E", but gets high-3 retirement pay
don't know what the nugget is being offered...

all aviator jo's should take a hard look at the adhsb results...

 

[Penguin]

Not to sound ignorant, but I'm not familiar with adhsb. I assume "active duty _______ selection board" Can someone fill me in?

 

[Flash]

Not to sound ignorant, but I'm not familiar with adhsb. I assume "active duty _______ selection board" Can someone fill me in?

Aviation Department Head Screen/ing Board.

 

[HAL Pilot]

the LDO has to retire as an "E", but gets high-3 retirement pay

Do LDOs still get automatically promoted on the E side? It used to be that if he wasn't already there, an LDO O1 got E7, an O2 got E8 and and O3 got E9. It was a real problem for a while because they would pick up LDO as an E6 or new E7, 4 years latter pin on O3, get pissed at being an officer or just not like it, and revert to enlisted. Poof! Instant Master Chief and never worrying about things like evals again while being treated well. I think the solution was that they had to give up the ability to revert when they accepted O3, but I believe they still received the E9 promotion in case they did not serve long enough to retire as an officer. The retirement pay for O3Es and E9s are within a couple hundred bucks per month of each other.

 

[Hozer]

the more things change....

HAL, you are right on. LDO's can still revert...in fact, there's a 26 year LDO LT in my shop who's up for CWO5 and LCDR at the same time, but CWO5 retirement is significantly more than 04. So, he will elect to revert to achieve necessary TIG to retire as an CWO5.
Another LDO had enough of wardroom politics and reverted about six months ago. Went from a LT to Master Chief...

My point is to JO's is that timing determines 90% of your success, the other 10% is luck...
enough soapboxing, see ya'll at the VFW....

 

[FatKid]

I got an email from the guy at PERS that said my bid was accepted. So now I wait for orders to separate in September.

 

[P3 F0]

Yeah, they offered the 1305 something like 90k. A bargain for the gov't vs. retirement + benefits...
the LDO has to retire as an "E", but gets high-3 retirement pay
don't know what the nugget is being offered...

all aviator jo's should take a hard look at the adhsb results...

I'm confused... did the 1305 get invol sep'd or did he take the 90K? And I'm assuming he's a LT? If he's an O4, that's gonna start worrying me big time.

 

[Hozer]

The 1305 (LT) gets nada, b/c he is in an unaugmented status. In other words, he serves at the convenience of the gov't and can be terminated at any time.
He is/was less than two months from "sanctuary".

Officially, aviation 0-4's are considered "career officers" according to the pers brief. Once you FOS twice, whether for DH or the next rank, you are allowed to serve in production billets, staffs, cv's, etc until 20 years when you will be compelled to retire.

However, I don't believe that either...
I smell the '92 RIF all over again...but I don't know jack

 

[Flash]

A buddy of mine on his boat tour had a fellow O-4 get $144, his max. Makes me think twice about not putting in for a bid, it was a nice chunk of change.....

 

[S.O.B.]

My point is to JO's is that timing determines 90% of your success, the other 10% is luck...
enough soapboxing, see ya'll at the VFW....

This is bad gouge. If the C.O. thinks you’re worth it he'll make the timing work out. Sure timing matters but 90% is B.S.


Of course if your in a dying community you may be fvcked regardless of what you do.

 

[P3 F0]

The 1305 (LT) gets nada, b/c he is in an unaugmented status.

Somehow I forgot what that "5" meant. I'll be leaving now, so I don't say anything else embarrassing.