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Woman + Subs

SkywardET

Contrarian
Yea, and Sailors have been smoking on submarines for approximately 80 years, perhaps more. Do you have any known instances of electronics breaking down because of cigarette smoke?
That's like linking smoking to cancer. Hard to do, but you know that the rates of cancer go down for non-smokers so it seems to be deducible. The effect of dirt on electronics is not quite as simple as mechanical wear and tear (cycling and so forth, but that also occurs), but rather an increase in the accumulation of straws on the proverbial camel's back. When a circuit board fails because its resister burned out, was it because of a manufacturing defect in the resistor or all the dust and gunk on that board insulating the conformal coating; or was it the effect of the defect exacerbated by the aforementioned gunk? If that gunk was not there or substantially reduced, would the part have failed at all?

In reality, the overall effect is very small, but even small effects on multiple million-dollar gear are somewhat relevant. I guess for morale and other reasons, the decision was made to favor allowing smoking inside subs. That is apparently under review. Just as women in subs is now becoming a reality. Hope they enjoy the newfound drama; I know I did!
 

Spekkio

He bowls overhand.
Skyward, I don't buy the company line.

The military is moving toward becoming a non-smoking institution. I don't care because I don't smoke, but I wouldn't be surprised if 10 years from now there is a smoke free policy across the board.
 

The Chief

Retired
Contributor
... defect in the resistor ...

More thread jack, but at times cannot help myself ...

Back in the day, endless arguments as to whether to fuse did it's job and opened the circuit properly or did the fuse actually fail, that is it opened the circuit prematurely. Whole lot of wasted energy, that we had that to spare.

To the question, absolutely yes. I have seen electronic equipment failures caused by tobacco products. Tobacco tars will foul an air filter, reducing air flow, raising internal equipment temps. The tar a sticky, gummy substance mxed with a liberal amount of dust, dust that would otherwise not affect the equipment, caused filter failure long before manufacturer's recommended filter replacement. Saw a KW-26 crypto macihne burn to the ground as the 6550 tubes turned cherry red, then white hot. Lack of air flow. And the machine was not something you could get with the next unrep.

Disclaimer: I contributed more than my fair share of that smoke tar. After all, we were buying seastore cigs at $0.85 a carton. And the smoking lamp was alway lit.
 

A4sForever

BTDT OLD GUY
pilot
Contributor
.....The military is moving toward becoming a non-smoking institution. I don't care because I don't smoke, but I wouldn't be surprised if 10 years from now there is a smoke free policy across the board.
No smoke?? I don't smoke, either -- 'cept good cigars and those almost exclusively outside for a variety of reasons.

But a non-smoking US military? How are guys gonna' "relax" after the heat's off ... chew gum ??? :)
 

scoolbubba

Brett327 gargles ballsacks
pilot
Contributor
Nope, gum doesn't break down fast enough to be one of the Great Green Fleet's environmentally acceptable alternative recreational activities.
 

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
Haven't you been paying attention? We're banning cigs, but putting women everywhere. . . ;)

Puts a whole new spin on the "oral fixation" part of cigarette addiction, huh?

"Having withdrawal, huh? I've got something that might help..."
 

EM1

Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit
The military is moving toward becoming a non-smoking institution. I don't care because I don't smoke, but I wouldn't be surprised if 10 years from now there is a smoke free policy across the board.

To continue along this threadjack, that is very true. Not sure if any of this was up when it was news, but mid summer last year there was a bit of a stir at the Pentagon over this. MSNBC ran probably the best story on it.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31911204/ns/health-health_care/

Pretty sure Congress still gets their smoke pit behind the Capitol Building.
 

60flyer

Now a C-12 pilot
pilot
Contributor
Depends on the woman's looks and skills.......

Ahhh...but the point was that the man would need to find somewhere else to focus his oral fixation. So the woman's skills wouldn't come into play....she would just benefit. *hence the "too far" comment* :D
 

HAL Pilot

Well-Known Member
None
Contributor
Ahhh...but the point was that the man would need to find somewhere else to focus his oral fixation. So the woman's skills wouldn't come into play....she would just benefit. *hence the "too far" comment* :D
And here I was thinking you meant there were women who liked to give.......were looking for something other than a cigerette to suck on.......
 

60flyer

Now a C-12 pilot
pilot
Contributor
And here I was thinking you meant there were women who liked to give.......were looking for something other than a cigerette to suck on.......

LOL...isn't it funny we both automatically assumed we would be the receiver :D I suppose give and take would be in order.....
 
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