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The end of NATO?

robav8r

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If only China had a ready pool of unemployed workers with expertise in providing aid to Africa.

Deep knowledge of how the USA does business and carrying a grudge = icing on the cake.
Deep knowledge of how to grift U.S. taxpayers . . . . . even better đź‘Ť
 

taxi1

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pilot
That Laura Loomer is even allowed in the WH, never mind the Oval is batshit crazy. I look forward to hearing from one of our local apologist how firing DIRNSA makes the US or NATO any stronger?

And if we're placing bets on who's next...
Got a grudge against your CO, and repeated spurious IG complaints not getting it done?

It’s unclear what kind of vetting Loomer presented to the president, but she has placed a call on her social media for tips regarding “any Biden Holdovers who are sabotaging directives of the Trump admin.”

“Are you sitting around wondering when the Biden holdovers will be removed from their positions so we can truly make America Great Again? Time to make them famous. DM me,” Loomer wrote Thursday, the day after her meeting with the president.
 

cfam

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That Laura Loomer is even allowed in the WH, never mind the Oval is batshit crazy. I look forward to hearing from one of our local apologist how firing DIRNSA makes the US or NATO any stronger?

And if we're placing bets on who's next...
Luckily for Langley change of command is this summer, and he’s likely retiring. He’s a great boss, I’ve been lucky enough to travel with him to the continent a few times.
 

Hotdogs

I don’t care if I hurt your feelings
pilot
Deep knowledge of how to grift U.S. taxpayers . . . . . even better đź‘Ť

The shortsightedness of not providing aid to countries and stabilizing areas of the world is one I don’t understand from the MAGA camp. In case you haven’t noticed immigration flows and instability in that region have a large impact on trade routes and commodities that flow downstream into the US economy. Particularly the Med, Red Sea, and Cape areas. Checkers level decision making by the idiots surrounding POTUS.

I guess it means fuck all given the recent Tariff news. Looking forward to getting that factory job when I retire... Oh wait, probably not because our demographic situation and ongoing boomer retirement means we can barely replace our current labor force. Time to start building AI infused robotic manufacturing. 4D level chess move by the Elon, Zuck, Cook, and Bezos crowd.
 

robav8r

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The shortsightedness of not providing aid to countries and stabilizing areas of the world is one I don’t understand from the MAGA camp.
No shortsightedness here . . . . the soft power you mention above is noble and necessary, got it. I just want someone (preferably under oath) to explain all of the expenditures that clearly fall outside of their organizational charter and responsibilities (USAID, HHS, CDC, NIH, SSA, DoD, DOE, Medicare, etc). I realize the dust has to settle wrt to the facts and "who was responsible for what", but i'll be curious to hear your opinion and comments when we finally have visibility on where all the money has gone. And . . . . . the Ukraine funding rabbit hole is going to be fun too. I'm patient, we'll wait and see what transpires . . .
 

Hotdogs

I don’t care if I hurt your feelings
pilot
No shortsightedness here . . . . the soft power you mention above is noble and necessary, got it. I just want someone (preferably under oath) to explain all of the expenditures that clearly fall outside of their organizational charter and responsibilities (USAID, HHS, CDC, NIH, SSA, DoD, DOE, Medicare, etc). I realize the dust has to settle wrt to the facts and "who was responsible for what", but i'll be curious to hear your opinion and comments when we finally have visibility on where all the money has gone. And . . . . . the Ukraine funding rabbit hole is going to be fun too. I'm patient, we'll wait and see what transpires . . .

How about you start doing some explaining? It’s been a pretty one sided affair with the amateur level commentary by the MAGA peanut gallery. Platitudes and surface level analysis, at best.
 

Hotdogs

I don’t care if I hurt your feelings
pilot
have visibility on where all the money has gone. And . . . . . the Ukraine funding rabbit hole is going to be fun too.
Best $180B the US has ever spent dollar for dollar on countering one of our main adversaries since the Reagan defense buildup in the 1980s. Arguably on par or above spending on the Mujahideen in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion.
 

robav8r

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How about you start doing some explaining? It’s been a pretty one sided affair with the amateur level commentary by the MAGA peanut gallery. Platitudes and surface level analysis, at best.
Dude - no explaining from me necessary, I’m just consuming my news feed, you’re consuming yours. I’m not attacking or being disrespectful in any way. I’m just curious about the facts, that’s all.
 

Faded Float Coat

Suck Less
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Dude....I’m just curious about the facts, that’s all.
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I'm not attacking or being disrespectful either... just doing some word/phrase association.
Best $180B the US has ever spent dollar for dollar on countering one of our main adversaries since the Reagan defense buildup in the 1980s. Arguably on par or above spending on the Mujahideen in Afghanistan during the Soviet invasion.
And willfully fucking it up is a strategic error of embarrassingly epic proportions.
 

JTS11

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pilot
Contributor
And willfully fucking it up is a strategic error of embarrassingly epic proportions.
And will be near impossible to reverse. Whether you're talking the tariffs, or shitting on/threatening our allies. Post WW2 world order has been kneecapped in 70 days, and he said he would do it. I guess we're in the FO stage of FAFO now.
 

Yardstick

Is The Bottle Ready?!
pilot
On the bright side. I guess Bud Light is no longer woke, and maybe that 1 trans swimmer can't compete again. Yay! for the federal government.. :rolleyes:
We also no longer have a federal government ignoring hundreds of thousands of border crossings a month! That’s winning!
 
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