I would hate to point out the obvious but what else can we really do?
It is a USNS ship and civilian manned, it has no major weapon systems.
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Chinese Intelligence Ship Harasses USNS Impeccable
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I would hate to point out the obvious but what else can we really do?
It is a USNS ship and civilian manned, it has no major weapon systems.
Nothing in this world is "obvious" ... if the ChiComs violate the rules of the road and a collision occurs, that's too damn bad & we are not at "fault" ... but if you're hung up on "obvious" -- try this: this would NOT have happened were the Bushie's still at the helm ...
I had a salty AWC Jez type tell me about the Russians trying to retrieve "his" DICASS buoys in the med in the late 80's..... the crew waited until Ivan had the active buoy on the deck of the trawler before Chief hit the PING button....I don't know how many watts of noise that thing puts out, but he said all the Russians were blown overboard. By the time that P-3 landed at Sig, 6th Fleet was already waiting for them. They got the perfunctory ass chewing, but when it was over, the Admiral said that it was one of the funniest things he had ever seen.
Yeah try that with a ship that has some firepower and see who is sinking then.
Oh, was wondering if it was some sort of Chinese SWO tactic, lol.
I guess their SWO's are just as queer as ours.
Move a carrier battle group or two 12 miles off the Chinese coast and park it there for a couple of weeks. That's what I would like to see.
Young Padowan......not a very wise move if you like not getting shot down or sunk.
Nothing in this world is "obvious" ... if the ChiComs violate the rules of the road and a collision occurs, that's too damn bad & we are not at "fault" ... but if you're hung up on "obvious" -- try this: this would NOT have happened were the Bushie's still at the helm ...
Yes, then you put one of our survey ships out of action for who knows how long?
As for your later assertion, how do you know that it did not happen when either one of them was at the helm? And if it did, what would they have done differently? Send a letter asking for plane....opps, I meant ship, back? And pay $34,000 too?
'Letter of the Two Sorries'
Payment to PRC
What's wrong with showing the big stick once in a while? Even Clinton did it in '96.
YOUR alternative is to let "them" think they can do this w/ impunity ... ??? Sorry, I think not; as that's what preceded the PUEBLO fiasco ... and many others.
As far as the "Bushie's" comment -- YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M REFERRING TO -- THE OBAMA ADMIN IS BEING TESTED ON MANY FRONTS AND THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY. To date, I'm not impressed. You don't REALLY want to get into the disgraceful EP-3 thing again, do you ... ???
Flash ... you'll just never "get it". You're NOT a "fighter" ... probably never have been; you're just not wired that way.
Yet you still give no alternatives, because they are few and far between. That is the reality, you seem to be ever further removed from it for some strange reason.
I am not the only one who disagrees with you here on this board about that, you can't always assume you know the whole story and what you think is always right.
Flash ... you'll just never "get it". You're NOT a "fighter" ... probably never have been; you're just not wired that way.
You really think you can judge someone from what they say/post over the internet? Pretty bold, probably mistaken........and very sad.
The alternatives are patently obvious -- or should be: armed air/sea escort(s) OR run 'em down if they violate the ROR ... it happens. It's happened. It shows you mean business ... your obfuscation & equivocation show YOU don't ...Yet you still give no alternatives, because they are few and far between. That is the reality, you seem to be ever further removed from it for some strange reason.
I am not the only one who disagrees w/ you here, either .... you just gotta take a stand on SOMETHING .... etc., etc. ... :sleep_125
I gotta "judge" on SOMETHING after all these years of verbal sparring ... what you bring to the discussion does NOT encourage me ... but I'll agree on one thing ... "very sad", as you say ....You really think you can judge someone from what they say/post over the internet? Pretty bold, probably mistaken........and very sad.
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As much as I've clashed w/ the Flasher in the past....
while he is not nearly the red meat, visceral Cretin Phillistine right winger that I am, ( and I know that I'm in proud company on this board...Squeeze, Herc, and Squorch notwithstanding)....The Flasher is a proud 'Merican despite his Canuck, (hotty) wifey. He'd take a bullet for old Glory as soon as anyone else one this forum. Those idiot Chinamen weren't even sanctioned by the PLAN Navy... at least to some of us folks in the IC...they just demonstrated a lot of buffoonery.
while he is not nearly the red meat, visceral Cretin Phillistine right winger that I am, ( and I know that I'm in proud company on this board...Squeeze, Herc, and Squorch notwithstanding)....The Flasher is a proud 'Merican despite his Canuck, (hotty) wifey. He'd take a bullet for old Glory as soon as anyone else one this forum. Those idiot Chinamen weren't even sanctioned by the PLAN Navy... at least to some of us folks in the IC...they just demonstrated a lot of buffoonery.
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