CJCS responds to Rep. Gaetz

[Treetop Flyer]

Many Black World War II Veterans Were Denied Their GI Bill Benefits. Time to Fix That. - War on the Rocks

During World War II 1,154,486 black Americans served in uniform. Not only did they face continued brutal racism and discrimination when they returned home

warontherocks.com

Black veterans get denied benefits following WWII.

When everyone else prospered they got behind everyone else by a lot.

He says systemic racism still exists. I do not dispute that it once existed.

 

[Spekkio]

But your one experience can be representative of all of Black Culture?

What a stupid extrapolation from this conversation.

-Is "Uncle Tom" not an actual expression used today?
-Is this expression not used to imply that the person is "selling out" his race akin to selling them into slavery?
-Is this expression not solely reserved for successful people, that even includes public figures like Clarence Thomas an Michael Jordan?
-Do blacks not commit violent crimes on each other more than any other race in America?
-Does any other race have a similar expression that is as racially polarizing and widely used?

 

[SELRES_AMDO]

Examples of systemic racism or oppression?

I'm not going to answer a question in response to my original question.

It's a simple yes or no answer that people can easily answer.

Does systemic racism and oppression still exists in some form in America?

 

[nodropinufaka]

He says systemic racism still exists. I do not dispute that it once existed.

How about a Military officer who believes that for any blacks to be successful they:

"abandoning one's race to the point it deserves a minimum of being ostracized from the family and at maximum deadly violence from members of their own race is unique to black people"

 

[Treetop Flyer]

I'm not going to answer a question in response to my original question.

It's a simple yes or no answer that people can easily answer.

Does systemic racism and oppression still exists in some form in America?

No, it does not.

 

[Spekkio]

How about a Military officer who believes that for any blacks to be successful they:

"abandoning one's race to the point it deserves a minimum of being ostracized from the family and at maximum deadly violence from members of their own race is unique to black people"

You should work on reading what I actually wrote, and not what you want to read because it struck a nerve.

 

[Treetop Flyer]

How about a Military officer who believes that for any blacks to be successful they:

"abandoning one's race to the point it deserves a minimum of being ostracized from the family and at maximum deadly violence from members of their own race is unique to black people"

One, that’s an observation similar to what I’ve seen growing up. Two, even if he said something full on hateful, that’s not systemic. If systemic racism is oppressing people, where is it?

 

[Brett327]

Nice straw man. How many white kids are called racial slurs for getting good grades?

Why is a racial slur required to consummate an act of violence toward the "other?" Would faggot, or kyke, or Dago, or Mick meet your benchmark for people of the same race treating each other like shit for being smart?

 

[nodropinufaka]

You should work on reading what I actually wrote, and not what you want to read because it struck a nerve.

This is exactly what you wrote:

The culture that becoming a functioning, middle-class member of society is abandoning one's race to the point it deserves a minimum of being ostracized from the family and at maximum deadly violence from members of their own race is unique to black people.

 

[DanMa1156]

No, it does not.

Genuine question, not mocking you: do you think the effects of racism, whether systemic or not, continue to have an effect on the outcome of minorities - particularly black - lives?

 

[Treetop Flyer]

Genuine question, not mocking you: do you think the effects of racism, whether systemic or not, continue to have an effect on the outcome of minorities - particularly black - lives?

Absolutely

 

[Spekkio]

This is exactly what you wrote:

Can you find where I stated the other part of your post? You know, the part that you just made up?

 

[nodropinufaka]

Can you find where I stated the other part of your post? You know, the part that you just made up?

What exactly are you talking about.

You're quote didn't say some blacks. You implied it was necessary for them to succeed. Why are you trying to back peddle on your statement? own it.

 

[Spekkio]

Why is a racial slur required to consummate an act of violence toward the "other?" Would faggot, or kyke, or Dago, or Mick meet your benchmark for people of the same race treating each other like shit for being smart?

The key difference is the race of the originator.

If racial slurs and violence against blacks is coming predominately from other black people...well, we can't reasonably conclude that the core issue is oppression and systemic racism from white people.

 

[Spekkio]

What exactly are you talking about.

You're quote didn't say some blacks. You implied it was necessary for them to succeed. Why are you trying to back peddle on your statement? own it.

I'm not back-peddling on anything. You're trying to put words in my mouth.