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Cold War Redux, (the Russians are back in force!)

Flash

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Wow, that is HUGE fucking news. Of course, our mainstream media is asleep at the switch once again.

Brett

Ehhh......Lukashenko is not all that happy right now with Putin so I am not sure a 'union' will actually go through. It has been talked about for quite some time, and has been noted in the media as option for Putin to stay in power, but it still has not happened.

I will believe it when I see it.
 

Flash

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Putin sent the Bears out in multiple directions. Typhoon intercepts were in August and don't have that much range to make it to the Pacific.

They are making a big show, but does it really have beef? Their heavy bomber inventory is a fraction of what it once was and who is to say they really work?

They can make it out pretty far into the Pacific from some of their Far East bases.
 

raptor10

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Ehhh......Lukashenko is not all that happy right now with Putin so I am not sure a 'union' will actually go through. It has been talked about for quite some time, and has been noted in the media as option for Putin to stay in power, but it still has not happened.

I will believe it when I see it.
You mean the same country where you are considered a political opponent for speaking Belarusian instead of Russian? That Belarus? It's culture and official language are already Russian, and the critical mass for the union has already been exceeded. Putin and Lukashenko have already signed a timeline for the Union... It's gonna happen... Believe it!
 

HeyJoe

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They are making a big show, but does it really have beef? Their heavy bomber inventory is a fraction of what it once was and who is to say they really work?

They can make it out pretty far into the Pacific from some of their Far East bases.

When Bears are around, you aren't just concerned with the other bombers, it passes targeting info for subs and surface ships that are about. That's why "in the day", Tomcats were on them a few hundred miles away and stayed with them continuously. If "the balloon went up" they were high priority to get splashed.

Bear_DN-SC-86-04120.jpg


Photo by HJ
 

Flash

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When Bears are around, you aren't just concerned with the other bombers, it passes targeting info for subs and surface ships that are about. That's why "in the day", Tomcats were on them a few hundred miles away and stayed with them continuously. If "the balloon went up" they were high priority to get splashed.

Bear_DN-SC-86-04120.jpg


Photo by HJ

You are thinking of the Bear D's, with its 'Big Bulge'.

Tu-95RTs-Bear-D-F-14-1.jpg


The only ones they got left are the Bear H, basically a LACM carrier, and the Tu-142 Bear F, a P-3 on steroids. This is a Bear H, no bulge.

Bear-H-MAKS-2005-Tupolev-1.jpg


Excellent page on the Bear.

http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Bear.html
 

HeyJoe

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If "the balloon went up"

Brett said:
I wonder what the history/origin of that phrase is.

99 red balloons GOSH!!! :D

Actually here it is

Nice link and as much as I admire work of William Safire, he seems to have missed the combat introduction of balloons by 50 some odd years in our own Civil War. It was then that "when the balloon went up", hostilities were about to ensue.

"Intrepid", the most famous of Civil War balloons, belonged to pioneer Dr Thaddeus Lowe

CivilWar%20balloon.bmp


The Air Force likes to trace its origins to the Civil War Aeronautic Corps founded under Lowe

AA17.jpg
 

Raptor2216

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I remember watching a show on the history channel about it and they said that he was so high up and in turn far enough away that the rounds could not penetrate the balloon. You also have to remember they were using lead balls, not the pointy bullets we use today.


^^ Did anyone think to shoot the poor bugger down? :D

Brett
 
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