F-14 Dual Controls ??

[xnvyflyer]

Hey all. I was wondering if anybody was aware of a "trainer" version of the F-14. I was 99 percent sure there never was one and that ALL F-14s could only be flown from the front seat. Any info to the contrary or can anybody confirm?

Thanks.

 

[cosmania]

Why would you ask such a question?

 

[Schnugg]

Never had them.

 

[Rubiks06]

If thats the case then how did a new pilot qualify in the 14? Or was there just a bunch of sim time then they sent you on your way with an NFO or instructor that hoped you knew what you were doing?

 

[Pugs]

If thats the case then how did a new pilot qualify in the 14? Or was there just a bunch of sim time then they sent you on your way with an NFO or instructor that hoped you knew what you were doing?

Same way they qualify / ed in the F-8, F4D, A-6, EA-6B and anything else with one set of controls and / or seat. Alone after sims and training or with a qualed pilot or NFO in the right seat.

 

[Schnugg]

First hop for a new pilot in the FRS was IP up front, new pilot in RIO's seat. Out to the working area for a performance demo...come back land, hot pump, hot switch seats, take off with new pilot in front for first hop at controls, IP in back, do same performance demo flight just shown to pilot.

Every hop after that one was Pilot/RIO.

 

[Brett327]

First hop for a new pilot in the FRS was IP up front, new pilot in RIO's seat. Out to the working area for a performance demo...come back land, hot pump, hot switch seats, take off with new pilot in front for first hop at controls, IP in back, do same performance demo flight just shown to pilot.

Every hop after that one was Pilot/RIO.

FRPs get 10 backseat hours in the Prowler, then first few flights are with an IP in the right seat to get them through stalls/falls and circus landings.

Brett

 

[xmid]

First hop for a new pilot in the FRS was IP up front, new pilot in RIO's seat. Out to the working area for a performance demo...come back land, hot pump, hot switch seats, take off with new pilot in front for first hop at controls, IP in back, do same performance demo flight just shown to pilot.

Every hop after that one was Pilot/RIO.

So did the FRS IPs get to log a little NFO time?...

 

[nittany03]

So did the FRS IPs get to log a little NFO time?...

With 2 pilots up front, right seater logs copilot time. With an NFO up front, NFO logs special crew time.

 

[Brett327]

With 2 pilots up front, right seater logs copilot time. With an NFO up front, NFO logs special crew time.

Did you feel like the sims adequately prepared you for PF-1? I know the backseat time is more for getting used to the flow of things, but the sim isn't exactly known for its high fidelity. Just curious about your own experience.

Brett

 

[xmid]

With 2 pilots up front, right seater logs copilot time. With an NFO up front, NFO logs special crew time.

How can you log copilot time if you have no way of actually taking control of the aircraft? I guess prowler guys could technically reach over the the center section, but for F-14 guys? I'm guessing this is a question of symantics and thats just how the Navy decided to do things...

 

[Schnugg]

F-14 RIO seat was special crew time...nothing else.

 

[raptor10]

I'm guessing this is a question of symantics and thats just how the Navy decided to do things...

I guess it wasn't a question of semantics.

 

[nittany03]

Did you feel like the sims adequately prepared you for PF-1? I know the backseat time is more for getting used to the flow of things, but the sim isn't exactly known for its high fidelity. Just curious about your own experience.

Brett

PM sent.

 

[The_Commodore]

If thats the case then how did a new pilot qualify in the 14? Or was there just a bunch of sim time then they sent you on your way with an NFO or instructor that hoped you knew what you were doing?

They actually made the new pilot sit on the instructor's lap.