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Final Select SNA!
- Thread starter jt71582
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Thunderkiss
ENS - SNFO
Great SCOTT! Is OCS filled up to Oct? I want to be there as soon as possible, and that seems like a long time to wait. I'm currently at the point where Meps is looking at my med docs, and setting a date for me to come in. Should be no problem for me to pass medical, but I am being told that I will then have to wait for the EPSQ clearance to finish up...
Any thoughts on this? I was told about a months worth of time for me before I actually go swear in...
VR,
TK
Any thoughts on this? I was told about a months worth of time for me before I actually go swear in...
VR,
TK
I'd say about a week. It was less than that for me, though.
About a month sounds right. MEPS and EPSQ were finished prior to submitting my application though. I'd stick with what the recruiter told you. I'm also not sure if classes are full until October - they just may not have been able to get me in because I won't have my degree until 22 Aug.
SkidGear
New Member
Question for you guys on here....I know that your placement ultimately comes down to the needs of the Navy, but will my flight experience and time help me out? I have 900 hours PIC in Helicopters...I fly tours and photo flights now. I am instrument/commerical rated in helicopters. Is there any chance out there that when I make it through the process and go to primary that I will be put in anything else other than Helos???
I'm not in your situation nor am I a selection expert, but here is what I've heard from a few sources both on AW, and from a few contacts I have that are active duty:
To a certain extent, the hours flying can help you be accepted. However, there exists a school of thought that the Navy wants to train you the way they want, not train you to un-learn all of your bad/different habits. Now, I don't know if there is any definitive or numerical data to suggest the latter, but it seems to make sense. I'm not telling you that your 900 hours will disqualify you. I'd say it more depends on the overall package, and if you meet the 'whole person' image that the Navy is seeking.
Maybe put something in your personal statement about your willingness to learn to fly the Navy way. Just suggestions. Good luck!
SkidGear
New Member
yeah I understand what you are talking about with the way the navy flys, but I am sure that i will not be as prone to some mistakes that other newbies would make out right. Yes I am sure that some of the ways that I fly now are quite different than the way the Navy flys.
Case and point, I routinley fly higher and faster than H60's out of MayPort. They fly low and slow over the shore and I have to fly fast to keep the cost of the flight down. But for them not to select someone for having a better than average knowledge of an airframe or knowledge of aviation is down right stupid. Based simply on the thought of "well we have to untrain you" is absurd. What would be the difference between me and some newbie who does not even know what seat they are to sit in and why??
Case and point, I routinley fly higher and faster than H60's out of MayPort. They fly low and slow over the shore and I have to fly fast to keep the cost of the flight down. But for them not to select someone for having a better than average knowledge of an airframe or knowledge of aviation is down right stupid. Based simply on the thought of "well we have to untrain you" is absurd. What would be the difference between me and some newbie who does not even know what seat they are to sit in and why??
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
What civvie helo are you flying that goes 160+? Low and slow is sometimes needed for tactical reasons. Higher and hauling ass is needed at other times.
I had a comm helo ticket. I am in the E2C2 pipeline after detour thru helos.
All that matters at selection is grades and needs of the Navy. They won't care that you have a com-helo-mulit-gyroplane.
I had a comm helo ticket. I am in the E2C2 pipeline after detour thru helos.
All that matters at selection is grades and needs of the Navy. They won't care that you have a com-helo-mulit-gyroplane.
Like I said, take my opinions as hearsay because that's exactly what they are. You don't have to plead your case to me, you sound like a good investment...unfortunately, I don't make the decisions. Good luck, and the only way you'll know for sure is when you get those pro-rec results.
Until then, I'm pullin' for ya!
Until then, I'm pullin' for ya!
Congrats, JT! Ok, start working on your big 3...
SkidGear - do you WANT to stay in helos, or are you trying to move away from them? If you want to stay helos, you could think about the Army side. With flight experience like what you have, you can skip primary and instruments as long as you can pass a checkride (not easy from what I have heard, but certainly doable with your experience). From there you select into your advanced aircraft and do flight school XXI. I have heard of two people successfully doing this, one was a civilian that was hired to teach primary and taught for a while then crossed over, the other was a civilian guy with about 1000 hours who was rated in the Bell 206 already (what we do primary and instruments in).
/threadjack
jt - congrats on the selection, looks like it was well deserved.
/threadjack
jt - congrats on the selection, looks like it was well deserved.
SkidGear
New Member
To MB....The cruise spped on a 60 may be that high but I can guarandamntee you that they are just cruising along at 500' @ 100 knots over the shoreline. I am sure this is some type of training thing but it is a daily occurance. And yes I have seen them at 10' hovering out over the water as well...question for you on that though....When hovering 1-2 miles offshore, do these 60's have floats? I am sure this will be recieved as an idiotic question but do 60's have floats? I assume they due considering that this maneuver would be deemed illegal since they are not within gliding distance to shore...Thanks
To OH-58...I have considered the Army..but in all due respect I want to be an Officer. Having this title and the responsibility of it has always been my dream..As far as wanting to get out of helicopters, I would love to stay in them but I am not going to pass up an oppurtunity to further my career by switching out. If that comes along I will gladly transition over, but if not I am more than happy to keep busting through ETL..Keep up in the green guys..
To everyone else...my purpose for the first post, was to see if people who had prior time ever got put in something else. I was not saying I was a shoe-in but was merely asking a question. But I do think that it is absurd that my time would be a negative as opposed to a positive.
To JT..congrats man on getting the assignment. I am sure that you will do great, and great things happen to great people. congrats.. Also, I was not attacking your statement, that is just a hot button for me, since you are not the first person to state that. It just does not make logical sense to me.
To OH-58...I have considered the Army..but in all due respect I want to be an Officer. Having this title and the responsibility of it has always been my dream..As far as wanting to get out of helicopters, I would love to stay in them but I am not going to pass up an oppurtunity to further my career by switching out. If that comes along I will gladly transition over, but if not I am more than happy to keep busting through ETL..Keep up in the green guys..
To everyone else...my purpose for the first post, was to see if people who had prior time ever got put in something else. I was not saying I was a shoe-in but was merely asking a question. But I do think that it is absurd that my time would be a negative as opposed to a positive.
To JT..congrats man on getting the assignment. I am sure that you will do great, and great things happen to great people. congrats.. Also, I was not attacking your statement, that is just a hot button for me, since you are not the first person to state that. It just does not make logical sense to me.
MasterBates
Well-Known Member
500' & 100kt? Possibly SAR training or a guy flying with the CO that is afraid to pull more than 70% and get yelled at. Most guys going somewhere are gonna be doing so at close to maxQ, probably doing 120-160 depending on fuel load and how strong the motors are. 106% and let it ride used to be my preferred method.
10' hovering over water is definitely SAR training. No floats. Your stinking rules don't apply to us. And I have flown single engine skids over water out of gliding distance from shore. Hell, you can't glide across the St. Johns in most places from Green Cove Springs up to downtown JAX from 1000'. Just know how to get the fook out when it flips.
SkidGear
New Member
Yeah I know that the FAA rules dont apply, I was just curious...also another question for ya....we have 60 land here all the time, and there has been a couple of times where there is a "squadron patch" on the slide door of a white crosshairs and the female profile "like on the mudflap of a semi" in the middle on a black background....who does this belong to? Is it a unti designation or just a cool patch? will try to get a picture of it as well