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Random Griz Aviation Musings

phrogdriver

More humble than you would understand
pilot
Super Moderator
Hmmmmm….interesting, but I feel like they are falling into the Enstrom trap where little changes except for size.

They don't have the engineering strength to make a wildly different product, and they can't compete with Airbus, Leonardo, and Bell in the long single markets straight up. They don't have the numbers to scale production economically, so they also need to keep parts and systems commonality with the rest of their aircraft. I suspect they'll build this on the same production line as the 22/44/66 for this reason as well.

They have to play as the low-cost competitor for users who want that type of capability, but don't have $7-10M it would normally take to get a 10-seat helicopter.
 
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PhrogPhlyer

Two heads are better than one.
pilot
None
I suspect they'll build this on the same production line as the 22/44/66 for this reason as well.

They have to play as the low-cost competitor...
So? To save costs, is a tail rotor optional?
At least it has a real cyclic. I couple flights I had in a 22 did not make me a fan of that configuration.
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Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
pilot
Contributor
The new tail rotor is called “R&R System” there isn’t a tail rotor so you just go Round-and-Round. On the earlier comments, all that is true, and part of the issue that plagued Enstrom. You are correct that the new ship will be built in Torrence CA. In the end I doubt they’ll hit the 10 seat number unless they use some insane 1950’s metric like an “average weight of 160 lbs. per passenger…” Best guess, a 7 or 8 seat ship.
 
The new tail rotor is called “R&R System” there isn’t a tail rotor so you just go Round-and-Round. On the earlier comments, all that is true, and part of the issue that plagued Enstrom. You are correct that the new ship will be built in Torrence CA. In the end I doubt they’ll hit the 10 seat number unless they use some insane 1950’s metric like an “average weight of 160 lbs. per passenger…” Best guess, a 7 or 8 seat ship.
Pretty sure there was a plane crash that was the result of the weight and balance being calculated using an outdated metric. They didn't account for Americans getting fatter.
 

Griz882

Frightening children with the Griz-O-Copter!
pilot
Contributor
Well….it looks like the USAF is going to be 9,000,000 gallons of Jet A short. A US tanker was hit by a freighter off the coast of Hull UK.

 

ChuckMK23

FERS and TSP contributor!
pilot
What is this?
I work for DAF as a GS and serve in a mixed unit of active duty, AF reservists, and GS civillian. Most of our reservists are O-4 or O-5 airline guys who drill for mostly points only. We have one week where we have a week of drill/AD to get PT tests, annual training, uniform inspections, etc.
 
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