The British Will Continue To Be Attacked

[Fly Navy]

The British will continue to be attacked and will lose to the Islamo-fascists if this keeps up.

http://www.lsnmedia.co.uk/luton/

COPS MUST KEEP THE FAITH

POLICE have been told to take their shoes off and not use sniffer dogs when raiding Muslim homes.

An 18-point guide issued by Bedfordshire Police lists dos and don'ts when dealing with Muslims who are suspected of terrorist or drugs offences.

The guidelines state that 'the Muslim community feels victimised and suspicious of counter terrorist police operations and in the current climate a search at a British Muslim household has the potential to become a critical incident and come under intense scrutiny'.

It then lists 18 points police officers should note.

These include:

• Rapid entry needs to be the last resort and raids into Muslim houses are discouraged for a number of religious dignity reasons.

• Police should seek to avoid looking at unclad Muslim women and allow them an opportunity to dress and cover their heads.

• For reasons of dignity officers should seek to avoid entering occupied bedrooms and bathrooms even before dawn.

• Use of police dogs will be considered serious desecration of the premises and may necessitate extensive cleaning of the house and disposal of household items.

• Advice should be sought before considering the use of cameras and camcorders due to the risk of capturing individuals, especially women, in inappropriate dress.

• Muslim prisoners should be allowed to take additional clothing to the station.

• If people are praying at home officers should stand aside and not disrupt the prayer. They should be allowed the opportunity to finish.

• Officers should not take shoes into the houses, especially in areas that might be kept pure for prayer purposes.

• In the current climate the justification for pre-dawn raids on Muslim houses needs to be clear and transparent.

• Non-Muslims are not allowed to touch holy books, Qurans or religious artefacts without permission. Where possible, Muslim officers in a state of 'Wudhu' (preparation before prayer) should be used for this purpose.

Chairman of Luton Council of Faiths, Zafar Khan, welcomed the guidelines but said the police should deal with all faiths sensitively.

He said: "Guidelines on how to deal and interact with the community in all faiths should be welcomed.

"It's a question of being sensitive and informed and if that makes the policing more effective and more sensitive that has to be a good thing."

Abdul Malik, chairman of Luton Race Advisory Forum, said it had been in discussions with the police about how to raid houses before the London bombing campaign.

He said: "The police need to be sensitive when they are going into the homes of everybody - not just Muslims.

"They should keep respect. Some Hindus and Sikhs have a place or a room devoted to prayer and that should be respected too."

A Bedfordshire Police spokesman said: "The guidelines are regularly issued to all staff as a reminder of the force protocol when entering a Muslim household.

"We take very seriously the culture surrounding all faiths and feel it is important to respect those beliefs, even while carrying out police business. We would like to reassure all communities that any current or perceived tensions, which might be heightened as a result of recent events, will not affect how police deal with Muslims or anyone else."

 

[NuSnake]

Bs

 

[Fly Navy]

Bs

It's precisely the kind of crap that the British keep pulling. Criminals have more rights than normal subjects... I mean citizens... over there. Bad guy breaks into your house with a gun, intent on harm. You shoot him. You get arrested, sent to jail, and he sues you for everything you have, because your gun was illegal to own.

 

[nittany03]

I pray to God this never happens here. If you violate the rights of others you lose rights in return. Basic social contract theory; it's what democracy was based on.

 

[phrogdriver]

The Brits seem to be simultaneously resolute and ridiculous in regards to terror. Tony Blair’s comments after the first Underground bombing were the best I’ve heard from any politician since Reagan, perhaps since WWII. At the same time, they’re falling into the same sensitivity trap we’re in. Ann Coulter put it best, saying that when a profile matches 100% of the perpetrators, it’s no longer a profile, but a description of the suspect.

Look, if you want your religion treated with respect, maybe you should stop harboring suicide bombers. “Oh excuse me, were you getting ready to pray? Well, we’ll just wait outside while you strap your C-5 belt on, then.”

 

[Brett327]

What about my dignity? Doesn't that count for something too, or is it just the Muslims that get to have that. Last time I checked, the perps don't get to dictate then terms under which lawful searches are carried out.

Brett

 

[NuSnake]

Someone breaks into my house...sorry, you're getting a bullett somewhere...probably not anywhere you would want one.

One thing to note though...if someone yells at me to "freeze!" in Great Britain, you better believe I'm gonna stop..those guys didnt play with that Brazillian kid..whew!!! Hahaha..but I think Shoot to Kill is a great policy!!!

 

[Fly Navy]

Someone breaks into my house...sorry, you're getting a bullett somewhere...probably not anywhere you would want one.

One thing to note though...if someone yells at me to "freeze!" in Great Britain, you better believe I'm gonna stop..those guys didnt play with that Brazillian kid..whew!!! Hahaha..but I think Shoot to Kill is a great policy!!!

That Brazillian kid killed himself. Wearing a trenchcoat in the summer, running from the police towards a train after they'd just been bombed, not heeding the Police's orders? He deserved to get shot, innocent or not, he was asking for it. I would have done the same.

 

[NuSnake]

me too

 

[HOORAH]

What about my dignity? Doesn't that count for something too, or is it just the Muslims that get to have that. Last time I checked, the perps don't get to dictate then terms under which lawful searches are carried out.

Brett

oh no I'm agreeing with Brett!!!! We're going to "tolerance" ourselves into a 3rd world country if we keep this crap up.

 

[gregsivers]

That's a load of crap if I ever read it. Does anyone see any hint of common sense there? They keep that up and they will get attacked more. At least the Muslim dude qutoed in the article says all faiths should get the same respect/treatment. Can't imagine CAIR saying that in America.

 

[Fly Navy]

That's a load of crap if I ever read it. Does anyone see any hint of common sense there? They keep that up and they will get attacked more. At least the Muslim dude qutoed in the article says all faiths should get the same respect/treatment. Can't imagine CAIR saying that in America.

Crap, it has nothing to do with respect. If there is evidence that you're plotting a bombing and I'm raiding your apartment or house, fvck your religion, fvck your customs, I'm taking you down. You could be Muslim, Catholic, Mormon, I don't care. You'll either be arrested or dead, up to you. This kind of lunacy is just... well, lunacy.

 

[gregsivers]

Crap, it has nothing to do with respect. If there is evidence that you're plotting a bombing and I'm raiding your apartment or house, fvck your religion, fvck your customs, I'm taking you down. You could be Muslim, Catholic, Mormon, I don't care. You'll either be arrested or dead, up to you. This kind of lunacy is just... well, lunacy.

I think you misunderstood my comment. I'm not saying they should get any respect, I agree with you 100%. If you're breaking the law and endangering others, you're toast, and your religous rights just flew out the window. I'm just saying I was surprised that Imam or whatever he was said that.

 

[Lawman]

Honestly all I can say is Welcome to the wonderful world of Law Enforcement. Its a lot like some of the BS assanine ROE's that some of the military has to deal with. The realism of the scenario doesnt ever seem to filter up to the civilains and administrators that dont have to deal with the reality of the actual conflict at hand.

 

[Fly Navy]

I think you misunderstood my comment. I'm not saying they should get any respect, I agree with you 100%. If you're breaking the law and endangering others, you're toast, and your religous rights just flew out the window. I'm just saying I was surprised that Imam or whatever he was said that.

No, I know what you meant. Just commenting and furthering it.