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The end of NATO?

Faded Float Coat

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What’s that saying again? Play stupid games…
As it relates to the topic of this thread.... I'm not sure I'm gonna put too much stock in rumors surrounding the relief of a senior US NATO rep coming from this guy.

Honestly though, is this your schtick? If so, bravo, you're playing the role very well. If this isn't a bit, please, for the good of the sailors or marines you're charged to lead, consider resigning your commission. Jack Posobiec... YGBFSM....
 

ea6bflyr

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Spekkio

He bowls overhand.
Some of these folks make horrible financial decisions too. I mean you don't need to have the latest big pickup truck and a wave runner...but also be anti-expertise and blaming Latin-Americans for your problems. Didn't Vance write a book about this?
The median household income nation-wide for people aged 30-65 is about $100k.

The explosion of housing prices was in large part due to a repressed market followed by rapidly increasing wages from 2020-2023. People tend to buy the most expensive house they can afford... and I use the phrase can afford to mean the most the bank will approve.

The issue is that the median income for people under 30 is a fraction of that (even when you adjust for the number of single-earning households), and it's frustrating a lot of people. Also, roughly 20% of 18-24 year olds are unemployed and not enrolled in college.

So we do live in some great economic times...as long as you're over 30 or have parents to support you into your late 20s.
 
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Hotdogs

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The issue is that the median income for people under 30 is a fraction of that (even when you adjust for the number of single-earning households), and it's frustrating a lot of people. Also, roughly 20% of 18-24 year olds are unemployed and not enrolled in college.

So we do live in some great economic times...as long as you're over 30 or have parents to support you into your late 20s.

…and how do those statistics compared with previous generations adjusted for inflation? Is the problem wages or housing affordability?

I don’t recall most 18-24 year olds making enough to comfortably own their own homes or support a family at any point in my lifetime. I also don’t think that peak earning occurs in your 20s and 30s. I’ve seen statistics that wages peak for most after 40 with established careers in most generations. Your numbers need context.
 

Spekkio

He bowls overhand.
…and how do those statistics compared with previous generations adjusted for inflation? Is the problem wages or housing affordability?

I don’t recall most 18-24 year olds making enough to comfortably own their own homes or support a family at any point in my lifetime. I also don’t think that peak earning occurs in your 20s and 30s. I’ve seen statistics that wages peak for most after 40 with established careers in most generations. Your numbers need context.
Maybe I implied something I wasn't intending to say.

18-25 year olds were never able to support owning single-family homes on their incomes. The norm used to be multi-family homes or living in an apartment. Anecdotally, everyone from my parents' generation in my family and friend-group spent their pre-teenage years living in an apartment in one of the boroughs of NYC. It wasn't until the 1970s that their families moves out into suburbia in a mass exodus... and again, multiple generations living in a single home (which was on average around 1300 - 1500 sq ft) was the norm.

My point was that young people aren't participating in the labor force as much as they used to. Part of that is an unwillingness to hire young workers, part of that is demographic shifts away from urban centers that have more plentiful jobs, and part of that is that young people expect to go from zero to a 5 bedroom, 2500 sq foot house without putting in the effort.

Look at the type of home portrayed in Roseanne or Married with Children to the type of home portrayed in Modern Family. Compare the household in the Cosby Show to the house in Blackish. Then compare those to the type of home portrayed in a Christmas Story. This fuels the expectation part of the calculus.

Oh, and another thing we don't have today that we used to back in the late 19th century - grandmas who are around to babysit in order to allow young mothers to go to work. Today, grandma is still working full-time.
 
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Swanee

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you misspelled union...

Interesting anecdote: I am/was a member of IATSE (International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees). When automated spotlights started to become a thing, rather than help to retrain spotlight operators to program and code moving lights, the union made productions that use automated spotlights hire "backup" spotlight operators in case the automation failed.
Here's the kicker- there is no manual operations of an automated light. If it fails you just shift to use another light, or you go without.
Eventually those spotlight operators went the way of the dinosaur in most touring houses. There are still a few left in NYC.
We also had things like minimum call times- which makes sense- think drill periods. A load in and a load out would generally equal 4 hours each, even if the load out only took 2. It's a way to keep people employed.
However, you'd get people picking up Load in, light hang and focus, carpenter builds, sound check, show call, and load out. Each at 4 hours. Suddenly you're getting paid for 20+ hours in a 12 hour day.
IATSE Local 264 (in Hampton Roads) put themselves out of business doing stuff like this.
 

Brett327

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Honestly though, is this your schtick? If so, bravo, you're playing the role very well. If this isn't a bit, please, for the good of the sailors or marines you're charged to lead, consider resigning your commission. Jack Posobiec... YGBFSM....
One one level, it's kind of fascinating to consider (in a lab animal kind of way) exactly what it took to derail @Yardstick in his personal and professional life and worldview that would generate a chip on his shoulder of this magnitude. Completely lost the ability to function normally in civil society, with perceptions and cognition so distorted by fuming anger at whatever he perceives to have wronged him. What's truly sad is to go back to see his posts from 2010... happy, eager to start his career, kind, encouraging. What a transformation... nothing left but seething resentment... a broken shell of discontent.

This is what radicalization looks like, and this is what is left in its wake. I hope he gets some help.
 
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