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USMC Robert Kiyosaki

ChuckMK23

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This dude started popping up on my various feeds. He frequently appears in public wearing Naval Aviator wings on lapel.

He touts himself as a former "Marine gunship pilot" and a "Vietnam Veteran".

What's the real story here? He seems a bit questionable.


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Random8145

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He's a snake oil salesman. His "Rich dad, Poor dad" books were craptastulic bullshit. He sells get rich quick schemes.
Certain of his books make some excellent points. And his first book did a good job of emphasizing the need for financial education among people. BUT, there is also a lot of crap in them as well. For example, the original book could have been condensed into an essay basically, not a whole book. I have never heard of any stolen valor accusations against him though...?
 

JTS11

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Certain of his books make some excellent points. And his first book did a good job of emphasizing the need for financial education among people. BUT, there is also a lot of crap in them as well. For example, the original book could have been condensed into an essay basically, not a whole book. I have never heard of any stolen valor accusations against him though...?
He made his money selling books and getting people to sign up for his seminars. He was never a real estate tycoon. Kind of like someone else I know who set up a real estate university.
 

exNavyOffRec

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He's a snake oil salesman. His "Rich dad, Poor dad" books were craptastulic bullshit. He sells get rich quick schemes.
Several years ago a veteran I knew said it would be a good book to read, I hadn't heard of this guy so I read the book, then this veteran I knew tried to get me to start selling Amway. That was a hard pass and a few hours I will never get back.
 

Random8145

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He made his money selling books and getting people to sign up for his seminars. He was never a real estate tycoon. Kind of like someone else I know who set up a real estate university.
Yes, that is true. He made his money selling books and courses on how to make money. He and the other guy you mention also "co-wrote" a book together:)
 

JTS11

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Several years ago a veteran I knew said it would be a good book to read, I hadn't heard of this guy so I read the book, then this veteran I knew tried to get me to start selling Amway. That was a hard pass and a few hours I will never get back.
His books made their rounds through multiple ready rooms. Despite no objective evidence that he made bank on real estate, he told fairy tales of how to get rich on it.

Just another P.T. Barnum IMO...
 

JTS11

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Several years ago a veteran I knew said it would be a good book to read, I hadn't heard of this guy so I read the book, then this veteran I knew tried to get me to start selling Amway. That was a hard pass and a few hours I will never get back.
Haha..I knew a dude that was a little bit senior to me that was flnagled into a weekend road trip to Vegas from SD....He realized about an hour into the trip that they (1 winged aviator and his buddy) were selling Amway.

I think this describes the definition of purgatory/hell. 🙂
 

JTS11

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Things I avoid 1) Amway presentations 2) Timeshare presentations.
I guess since we're doing this, I'd add that as an O-1 don't agree to meet with a retired O-4/5 'financial advisor' in P'Cola trying to sell you whole life insurance. There were sharks there that somehow managed to get their hands on PII from the A-Pool.

Not quite different from what Kiyosaki is selling. Or for that matter, Dave Ramsey. Kiyosaki is worse though, bc it's griftier...Ramsey gives very basic personal finance advice with a side of Christianity. It's basic shit, and has built himself an empire. There are numerous reports of his corporate culture being...weird.
 

Brett327

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All this talk of Naval Aviators grifting made me think of our old pal, and God's gift to fighter pilots everywhere, Ed Rush, and I wondered what he had been up to. Turns out, his website details an "exploratory committee" to run for President in 2024, with a big red DONATE button. Hilariously predictable... that mindset is a form of mental illness, in my constitutionally protected non-expert opinion. :D
 

JTS11

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All this talk of Naval Aviators grifting made me think of our old pal, and God's gift to fighter pilots everywhere, Ed Rush, and I wondered what he had been up to. Turns out, his website details an "exploratory committee" to run for President in 2024, with a big red DONATE button. Hilariously predictable... that mindset is a form of mental illness, in my constitutionally protected non-expert opinion. :D
Is Randy Cunningham the gold standard?
 

JTS11

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All this talk of Naval Aviators grifting made me think of our old pal, and God's gift to fighter pilots everywhere, Ed Rush, and I wondered what he had been up to. Turns out, his website details an "exploratory committee" to run for President in 2024, with a big red DONATE button. Hilariously predictable... that mindset is a form of mental illness, in my constitutionally protected non-expert opinion. :D
I'm dying laughing. I understand the need to make a living...but goddam...how the fuck do you look yourself in the mirror? It's embarrassing.

Edit: I'd totally forgot the Ed Rush phenomenon. Thanks for reminding me.
 
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JTS11

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All this talk of Naval Aviators grifting made me think of our old pal, and God's gift to fighter pilots everywhere, Ed Rush, and I wondered what he had been up to. Turns out, his website details an "exploratory committee" to run for President in 2024, with a big red DONATE button. Hilariously predictable... that mindset is a form of mental illness, in my constitutionally protected non-expert opinion. :D
Brett, sometimes the tree of AW needs to be refreshed with the tales of Ed Rush.
 

Brett327

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I'm dying laughing. I understand the need to make a living...but goddam...how the fuck do you look yourself in the mirror? It's embarrassing.

Edit: I'd totally forgot the Ed Rush phenomenon. Thanks for reminding me.
I actually talked to the guy on the phone circa 2006 when he was sending threatening legal-sounding cease and desist emails to Websan about how we were all slandering his good reputation. Absolute tool.
 
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