So for all the pilots that leave after their MSR to go to the airlines, do they go and get more hours before going the airlines? Where do they get the hours from? Seems like getting and extra 500 hours (or more) would cost a lot of money.
Prior military pilots are eligible for a restricted ATP certificate with 750 hours total time and 250 of those being PIC…..
Word of mouth says no they don’t really help. I included three from reputable sources just to make my package “complete”. The general understanding is that anyone can blow smoke about how good of a person you are on a piece of paper, the real stuff that matters is your scores and GPA. So most say to not even worry about it.
Production tours (training) for the most part.
Yeah what you say is accurate I’m not disagreeing, just wanted to make it known that you can still get into the cockpit with lower hours. 750 will get you a bottom of the barrel commercial gig, still better than nothin! I remember years ago you could get pretty sweet gigs with the bare minimum commercial certificate and 250 hours. Now even those kind of giga want over 1000
Yeah, it’s definitely a nice thing they do for us. And I wasn’t trying to negate you, just express how unusual it would be to log the appropriate hours within MSR. But, I’m also in the school of thought that people should want to be Naval Aviators to be Naval Aviators and not as a stepping stone for free flight school so I’d take 12 years of MSR if it meant anything to big navy lol.
Flag letters apparently have some impact I’m told. Some people even said they have to personally write a letter back if they deny their candidate, though that one smells like bullshit. Is that BS @exNavyOffRec?
Makes sense, of all the program authorizations, aviation is one of the few without TIS restrictions for enlisted applicants
It is BS, I had several candidates have LORs from flag officers, from 1-3 stars, none were accepted, but also none of them had really great applications, average GPA's, average ASTB, etc....... I even had one who was applied for CEC that had an LOR from his Uncle who was a CEC 1 star, but the kid had a low GPA and no EIT and that equaled no selection.
I just saw this part about a secretary and it made me laugh, Paul doesn't have a secretary, the processors at NRC are essentially the lowest people at NRC in the officer programs workflow and the first step, the Program Managers are the ones that do the final QA review prior to board.
I only said his secretary because once I submitted my package to him for review, I was receiving emails from Paul as well as an E5. So maybe it was bad wording but I just meant the person working with him to review these packages. I was able to get ahold of them and they said they would add the missing appraisal in Monday and they apologize for missing it as well. What I take from that is the board may not start tomorrow unless they do it prior to the board starting.
The board dates are indeed just an estimate, but if it does start tomorrow (Monday) the board most likely won't see it, not that they even care or will look for it, they take just a few minutes to review, SNA/SNFO unlike most other boards goes really fast.
Do they have separate "piles" for AD and civilian applicatns?
I've heard so many conflicting stories of these mysterious "special piles". Anyone have insight on if they even exist and what gets you into one?
ISPP yes, the others no, everyone competes against everyone else.