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24MAY2021 Pilot/NFO Board

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exNavyOffRec

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terraformer said:
Understood. Thanks.

In your opinion and experience, how much freedom are board members given to make subjective decisions? NRC provides the minimum requirements, I know. However, do they also give board members soft requirements, such as "don't send us anyone without a degree in science, unless they have flight experience"? I hope that a board member has quite a bit of subjective decision power but I assume they all have to stand behind their ProRecY's personally.

You have mentioned before that each board chooses their own filters. For example, one board may decide to automatically cut everyone below a certain GPA or with a drug offense waiver, just to cut down the number of applications to look at.

I hope this supposed feedback includes some of the board specific criteria they used.
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I have a feeling the feedback is not what you all think it will be, they do the board in a day, 150-200 applications, you are all smart individuals and can figure out how quick they go and that the feedback will be general at best.

On a side not years ago a few specific boards used to give "feedback" and it was general statements like "prefer people with tech degrees" or "those with higher GPA's tend to be selected", stuff like that. The funny thing was after a few boards we noticed the "feedback" or "comments" were standard recycled statements.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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kookylukey said:
I'm sure if you had someone say you sucked or had the President give you a referral those could make or break, but Im sure like with every board its a combination of factors and you never know what they're going to value. Or if you're being compared by an identical person for the last slot and your only differences are references then sure
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for aviation no one cares about references, for IWC, Supply, or CEC they do.
 
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Generic

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villo0692 said:
what, are you writing a book or something?
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If you ever go to the Navy subreddit there’s occasionally someone writing a sci if novel and they need input on Naval life, ranks etc. I’m sure these novels will be NOTHING like Star Trek or Battlestar Galatica.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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Stephen0692 said:
I know actual officer promotion boards typically get split up into three categories... the cream of the crop based on performance selects without much conversation, and the bottom tier doesn't really get talked about either. The "crunch" is what I've heard the middle tier described as, and this is made up of the relatively average guys. This tier is what takes the most time for deliberation, and factors beyond the objective metrics would come up at this point.

It would make sense if our board occurred similarly. If so, an 80 9/9/9 applicant wouldn't have much time at all spent looking at their references or personal statement. The same is probably true if you barely qualified. Those things would come into play when they've gotta make the tough calls
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apples and oranges, they go fast as they have often just 1 day, that is how sometimes people with good scores get a "N" with no negative issues.

I have lost track how many aviation candidates experienced OR's have had picked up with 1 paragraph motivational statements, the best was like 2 sentences long.
 
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kotn

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exNavyOffRec said:
apples and oranges, they go fast as they have often just 1 day, that is how sometimes people with good scores get a "N" with no negative issues.

I have lost track how many aviation candidates experienced OR's have had picked up with 1 paragraph motivational statements, the best was like 2 sentences long.
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What factors lead to someone with good scores getting an N?
I was looking at past board excel sheets and was got confused at the few good looking packages that were not picked up. Does the personality test in the ASTB have anything to do with that?

Curious... do you remember what the two sentences were?

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NevarYalnal

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kotn said:
I was looking at past board excel sheets and was got confused at the few good looking packages that were not picked up. Does the personality test in the ASTB have anything to do with that?
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I recall one instance on the spreadsheet where a candidate with excellent GPA and ASTB was given a N, they were beyond the max age though and non-prior so that may have been a factor.
 
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exNavyOffRec

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kotn said:
What factors lead to someone with good scores getting an N?
I was looking at past board excel sheets and was got confused at the few good looking packages that were not picked up. Does the personality test in the ASTB have anything to do with that?

Curious... do you remember what the two sentences were?

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In many cases good scores and a N could be age issue, could be non-medical waiver of some sort, or could be just an oops by the board.
 
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Triumph_MAC

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exNavyOffRec said:
In many cases good scores and a N could be age issue, could be non-medical waiver of some sort, or could be just an oops by the board.
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I may be mistaken here, but I believe I read a while back that for active duty and prior service, for each year they served NRC will knock off one year of age towards a program requirement such as age and TIS. Again, I may be confusing that with other programs.
 
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